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    Re: Help with Rotrex lack of boost

    Quote Originally Posted by 04carboncivic View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. I had the car running and used a flat head as a stethoscope and it hurt my ear when I held it to the power head. The blower doesn't have much if any vibration feeling from loose bolts, even when revved, feels more like a rough movement from within the unit. Sigh, if its cooked I think I may go turbo than purchase a new unit at full price


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    I feel your pain man. I'd get in contact with the guy I suggested. I hooked me up several times. Real good guy and great customer service

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    Richard is awesome, I used him for their bracket and rad/intercooler combo. But like I said the blower is used so It won't be warrantied. I read on a bimmer forum from 2010 of these guys using an individual who rebuilt their blowers with success, and could upgrade the centre shaft which these days seems to be a common breaking point for 500. But again I am losing faith in these setups as they seem rather vulnerable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostedK20 View Post
    [MENTION=824]SAX JONZ[/MENTION] Please post an informational article on your problem. Please note your initial symptoms, successful methods of problem solving, the solution, and the result. That way, others can search for the issue, find your thread, and BAM fixed. It also allows other people's .02 on the matter, allowing for greater knowledge on the topic for us all. Thanks, and I'm glad it's all figured out!
    Hey, I am totally new to the rotrex world. My problem resides within the tps sensor methinks. Your problem sounds like what Adam mentioned. If you tighten past the specs you will damge impeller and bearings I think. I also read that, although the first batch of rotrex sc's had super tight tolerances and were given to racers to "try and break" were spun past rev limits and didn't break the latter had relaxed tolerances. If you've chexked the tolerances like ADMRSX mentioned and are fine then I would contact the company and sen unit in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04carboncivic View Post
    Got these two videos just for shits to compare how it sounded running normally and what happened after my IAT sensor stopped working. Can't believe it makes such a huge difference. Does the car just automatically assume for safety that the intake temps are extremely low and dense and therefore dump tons of fuel to compensate, and since there not, its just causing the motor to load up. I for one think it sounds awesome but the power is poop hahah.

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    http://youtu.be/qQRlqJSWzbI

    Honda Civic STI:
    http://youtu.be/QvtNrdzKBYc
    I haven't worked all the kinks out yet but I have noticed while driving the same thing. I smell gas and if car stalls it's hard to start again. I haven't had that in awhile. I disconnected the TPS and plugged it back in cause at times I would slam the gas and get a jackrabbit effect. That seemed to work really well for awhile. So, maybe a sensor is bad, or it's leaking at the point where the air is key pressure. My connection is NOT tight and wiggles side to side on the TB, makes me wonder if that could be my problem. I don't know shit yet cause I just don't know but at least I can share what my problems are as well and if one of us figures it out...
    I know that you have to be as frustrated as I am right now, but issue MAY be the TPS, not gonna say it is cause I know not but I have experienced shitty acceleration where I thought my NA setup would kick my ass ugly and the herky jerky bullshit that I hate. The setup seems temperamental but I am willing to stick it out till I figure this out. As far as turbo? I am not worried about that nor am I worried about the 2.4. I have systematically KILLED both with apparent EASE. Funny though, the turbo had more HP. I guess the usable HP comes on right away so it doesn't matter, that and the Supertech Valvesprings allows me to rev to 9k straight power the whole time just building until rev limiter kicks in. I have noticed that I shift once per every two shifts everyone else does while I walk the dog until, of course I got bitten by the law.
    Days the acceleration seems lagging, days the herky jerky happens are usually when it's humid. Now, my car just goes well when I just spank it. Doesn't like half acceleration too much at times. so... I think my problem MAY be the TPS. Maybe the setup is just too much for the motor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostedK20 View Post
    [MENTION=824]SAX JONZ[/MENTION] Please post an informational article on your problem. Please note your initial symptoms, successful methods of problem solving, the solution, and the result. That way, others can search for the issue, find your thread, and BAM fixed. It also allows other people's .02 on the matter, allowing for greater knowledge on the topic for us all. Thanks, and I'm glad it's all figured out!
    When I have resolved my issues 100 percent then I will. As of yet, I still don't know. Not confident of any of the variables as being the culprit. I will try that hairspray thing. Reminds me of the BMX days when our grips would slip we would spray a shot of hairspray to fix the problem and it would. I will try and find some hairspray as that stuff seems to be in rare supply as of late. Might be my problem too as, like I said in earlier post, I can move the connecting pipe on the TB left and right which doesn't seem right. I am still a newb to this whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adm_rsx View Post
    I have not heard of or ever had my bearings go bad before but you can get in touch with TTS Performance and talk to Richard about getting yours looked at If you want.

    I would check to make sure the bolts are all tight. Being that they are only tightened to 11-15ft.lbs it's possible they could have come loose.
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    Or could have been over tightened as another guy who I know not posted on crsx.com about his build...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAX JONZ View Post
    I haven't worked all the kinks out yet but I have noticed while driving the same thing. I smell gas and if car stalls it's hard to start again. I haven't had that in awhile. I disconnected the TPS and plugged it back in cause at times I would slam the gas and get a jackrabbit effect. That seemed to work really well for awhile. So, maybe a sensor is bad, or it's leaking at the point where the air is key pressure. My connection is NOT tight and wiggles side to side on the TB, makes me wonder if that could be my problem. I don't know shit yet cause I just don't know but at least I can share what my problems are as well and if one of us figures it out...
    I know that you have to be as frustrated as I am right now, but issue MAY be the TPS, not gonna say it is cause I know not but I have experienced shitty acceleration where I thought my NA setup would kick my ass ugly and the herky jerky bullshit that I hate. The setup seems temperamental but I am willing to stick it out till I figure this out. As far as turbo? I am not worried about that nor am I worried about the 2.4. I have systematically KILLED both with apparent EASE. Funny though, the turbo had more HP. I guess the usable HP comes on right away so it doesn't matter, that and the Supertech Valvesprings allows me to rev to 9k straight power the whole time just building until rev limiter kicks in. I have noticed that I shift once per every two shifts everyone else does while I walk the dog until, of course I got bitten by the law.
    Days the acceleration seems lagging, days the herky jerky happens are usually when it's humid. Now, my car just goes well when I just spank it. Doesn't like half acceleration too much at times. so... I think my problem MAY be the TPS. Maybe the setup is just too much for the motor?
    It sounds like your tune may be lack luster, particularly in part throttle driving, this is very typical of most dyno tunes. I suggest you have Vit take a look and see what he thinks. He could always retune it for you as well, I guarantee you it would be better than what you're dealing with now in respect to part throttle and part to full throttle transition, hell he may even make more power with it too and safer [MENTION=789]VitViper[/MENTION]

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    Help with Rotrex lack of boost

    I fixed my misfire problem incase that wasn't clearly posted. I had the power and ground pulse width signal reversed on cyclinder three. When I corrected that, bam cylinder one injector started firing again (and cylinder 3 worked all this time even being reversed). I'm not sure how this all makes sense. The car ran perfect on all 4 cylinders for 2 months and all of a sudden injector 1 decided to stop working. Either way I'm glad it's running again. Now on to my new problem. The gnarly sounding grind/knock sound coming from my power head. Does anyone here with a rotrex unit know what it should feel like when you spin the pulley clockwise? It turns but it's not 'easy' to turn nor does it spin freely. This is my first unit and it was used so I'm not sure if that's normal or a bearing(s) are wearing out. It still produces boost the same as before the sound and there isn't any play in the pulley side. I haven't had a chance to take the intake pipe off and see if there is play/damage to the impeller wheel yet but my ear tells me it's much more audible from the pulley side. I REALLY hope I don't have to send this unit in for a rebuild as it will be snowing here in Canada before I get it back and will go into hibernation until next spring.


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    Re: Help with Rotrex lack of boost

    This sounds like you will have to pull the sc off. All the bearings ect is on the pulley side so it sounds like that is your problem. Have you checked the sc fluid level? When is running can you see its circulating fluid through it? Did you replace the magnetic oil filter before installing the blower onto your car? TTS was really adamant about me replacing the filter before installing the new blower in my car.



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    The supercharger oil level is between the min and max mark after running for a few minutes so I know none has leaked out so far. I did not put a new filter on since the used kit came with two, and the guy told me the new one was only a few months old so I assumed it to be useable. I can't actually see much going on in the canister as far as I can remember but I honestly wasn't paying attention, I was more concerned with checking the oil level at the time. Is it painfully obvious you can see fluid movement or is it a slow trickle? Sorry if that's a newb question haha just not sure how fast that oil circulates


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