Need trans help!!!!!

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10-12-2013
froggyfredd

Need trans help!!!!!

Alright fellow boost lovers today I rebuilt my trans from a broken second gear I replaced 1-2nd with ppg gears and got just new case bearings because all the neglect bearing in the shafts appeared ok, I also got synchrotech carbon sychros. Long story short I put it all in and in neutral clutch depressed there's no noise but let the clutch out a ticking noise come from it sounds like the top of the trans where the shift assembly goes but who knows exactly. I've come to the terms I must pull the damn thing out again but any ideas what it could be I've rebuilt it a couple times before with no huge issues other than blowing the teeth off second but I know I'm only human and could have made a simple error. I've seen people say u have to grind down ur reverse shift fork with ppgs but I wouldn't see why, any input is helpful guys thanks :)
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

The issue was the reveres fork riding on first because I guess the ppg gears are slightly larger. So if you buy these grind your reverse shift fork down so you done have to do what I did, got her back up and running though after 3 months woot!!!!woot!!!!!
10-13-2013
monjarassi

thats good man same thing happen to a buddy of mine with those ppg gears that thing came out 3 times b4 we got it rite.
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

Yeah man playin the put it in take it out game gets old fast lol I bought them through Kmod and will never do business with them again since he would rarely respond to my emails about the where abouts of the gears and then I had this issue and he didn't respond till this evening when I bitched and said I wasn't goin to buy anything from him again. He tried to say the shimming of my trans must be screwed up cuz he's never had to grind anything down I just can see how vertical shimming on the shafts would prevent horizontal contact between and fork and gear.
10-13-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

Yeah man playin the put it in take it out game gets old fast lol I bought them through Kmod and will never do business with them again since he would rarely respond to my emails about the where abouts of the gears and then I had this issue and he didn't respond till this evening when I bitched and said I wasn't goin to buy anything from him again. He tried to say the shimming of my trans must be screwed up cuz he's never had to grind anything down I just can see how vertical shimming on the shafts would prevent horizontal contact between and fork and gear.

yea i have heard bad stuff from them thats sucks doh cause how hard is it to help a customer when in need, its not like it takes hours to respond to ab inquisition.

Wish i would have seen this earlier i wouldve shined some light man,
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

No big deal man at least our trans are fairly simple I was just freakin out cuz these gears wiped out like all my savings lol and I didn't wanna hurt them. Oh and I forgot to mention he had plenty of time to post videos on fb (which is where I messages him) of him drag racing SMH.
10-13-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

No big deal man at least our trans are fairly simple I was just freakin out cuz these gears wiped out like all my savings lol and I didn't wanna hurt them. Oh and I forgot to mention he had plenty of time to post videos on fb (which is where I messages him) of him drag racing SMH.

dang thats horrible customer servive
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

dang thats horrible customer servive

Agreed sir lol
10-13-2013
monjarassi

how you liking those syncros??
10-13-2013
monjarassi

Im looking to build my 5speed and want to try those out
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

Omg dude they are badass I've never had my car change gears so fast like no joke. I was iffy about them because there aren't many reviews on that I could find anyway, but yeah man first impression are great on these synchros
10-13-2013
monjarassi

How long have u had them for?
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

A day lol I installed them brand new with the new gears
10-13-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

A day lol I installed them brand new with the new gears

a ok...

i guess try and keep me posted as the days come. and by any chance was there any modding needed to fit them or they just plug and play
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

Will do and just plug and play :)
10-13-2013
froggyfredd

And there customer service was on par unlike certain folk
10-13-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

Will do and just plug and play :)

:boostedk20:
10-14-2013
aLmk

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

Yeah man playin the put it in take it out game gets old fast lol I bought them through Kmod and will never do business with them again since he would rarely respond to my emails about the where abouts of the gears and then I had this issue and he didn't respond till this evening when I bitched and said I wasn't goin to buy anything from him again. He tried to say the shimming of my trans must be screwed up cuz he's never had to grind anything down I just can see how vertical shimming on the shafts would prevent horizontal contact between and fork and gear.

I have also heard a lot of horror stories about them and frankly not a single good one that didn't come from KMOD directly.... Sad...

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

Im looking to build my 5speed and want to try those out

Ryan, snizzletoff on here, used them in one of his transmissions and really hated them. He highly suggests sticking with OEM. Perhaps he got a bad batch, but I believe him and Vit both had issues with theirs and went back to OEM synchros, hopefully they will chime in. [MENTION=789]VitViper[/MENTION] [MENTION=217]snizzletoff[/MENTION]
10-14-2013
VitViper

OEM syncros 4tw. THey may not all be fancy carbon coated and such -- but at least the splines don't disintegrate after 20 miles.
10-14-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by VitViper

OEM syncros 4tw. THey may not all be fancy carbon coated and such -- but at least the splines don't disintegrate after 20 miles.

thanks for the input!!! Means alot
10-14-2013
froggyfredd

That makes me feel great!! Glad I got them lol I like them sofar but only 100 miles on them
10-17-2013
snizzletoff

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Originally Posted by VitViper

OEM syncros 4tw. THey may not all be fancy carbon coated and such -- but at least the splines don't disintegrate after 20 miles.

^yeahthat

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

thanks for the input!!! Means alot

A bit late on this one, but I totally agree with Vit, I got the synchrotech carbon syncros brand new from synchrotech directly around September 2012. They had an update before then on them that's why the date is important. I was revving to 8800 at the time. And they were no better than OEM, in fact I thought they were worse.

The issues with our cars transmission isn't the synchros. its typically a CMC adjustment issue, but once you grind a gear a few times you ruin the engagment teeth on both the gear and the sleeve itself. Once this happens nothing will fix it short of replacing the gear.
10-17-2013
monjarassi

Wow that sucks that kinda ruins my plans :nervous:
10-17-2013
aLmk

What were your plans? Why not just use OEM synchros?
10-17-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by aLmk

What were your plans? Why not just use OEM synchros?

Ok well here were the plans:
Cryo-treat the gears
Replace syncros(OEM/syncrotech)
MTEC race spring

I have a bud from Louisiana thats been using this similar in his kswap 5spd tranny and every yr he upgrades the motor or anything to add more power the dam tranny is still holding up!!

We talking a bout a 600-750hp kswap tuned on BBG and running full slicks on the streets.
Thats why i dont get why many ppl have had bad experience with the Synchrotech syncros
10-17-2013
aLmk

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

Ok well here were the plans:
Cryo-treat the gears
Replace syncros(OEM/syncrotech)
MTEC race spring

I have a bud from Louisiana thats been using this similar in his kswap 5spd tranny and every yr he upgrades the motor or anything to add more power the dam tranny is still holding up!!

We talking a bout a 600-750hp kswap tuned on BBG and running full slicks on the streets.
Thats why i dont get why many ppl have had bad experience with the Synchrotech syncros

Not sure how it ruined your plans though? You can use the stock synchros... Or you can use the synchrotech ones... Also have you heard of Racer Steve on honda-tech? He treats gear and has had quite a success rate. I got some gears treated by him, but haven't put them in yet.
10-17-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by aLmk

Not sure how it ruined your plans though? You can use the stock synchros... Or you can use the synchrotech ones... Also have you heard of Racer Steve on honda-tech? He treats gear and has had quite a success rate. I got some gears treated by him, but haven't put them in yet.

Ill look him up and see what i can work out i had found a shop in Florida that does them but only on the weekends or sum like that
10-17-2013
aLmk

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

Ill look him up and see what i can work out i had found a shop in Florida that does them but only on the weekends or sum like that

Gotcha, his treatment is $200 with the good reviews I figured I'd give it a shot. You just send him the gears all broken down and the shafts too.
10-17-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by aLmk

Gotcha, his treatment is $200 with the good reviews I figured I'd give it a shot. You just send him the gears all broken down and the shafts too.

yea thats very affordable.. I wouldnt mind given a shot, its worth a try
10-17-2013
aLmk

His username on honda tech is racerstev
10-17-2013
monjarassi

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Originally Posted by aLmk

His username on honda tech is racerstev

aight coo!!! :fyea:
10-17-2013
snizzletoff

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Originally Posted by monjarassi

Ok well here were the plans:
Cryo-treat the gears
Replace syncros(OEM/syncrotech)
MTEC race spring

I have a bud from Louisiana thats been using this similar in his kswap 5spd tranny and every yr he upgrades the motor or anything to add more power the dam tranny is still holding up!!

We talking a bout a 600-750hp kswap tuned on BBG and running full slicks on the streets.
Thats why i dont get why many ppl have had bad experience with the Synchrotech syncros

Don't cryo treat your gears. That makes the gears harder. Which makes them more brittle not more resistant to breaking. You actually want to reduce hardness if you want to increase rigidity and strength. Sounds odd I know. I ran 550 hp on mine with a cryo treatment and the gears had visible cracks when I pulled them.

As I said before synchros aren't really the cause of our issues, it's the engagement teeth on either the hub or the gear itself. Some people have fine results with the after market synchros, but it's honestly a waste of money.

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10-17-2013
froggyfredd

I still love my sychros from synchrotech they are as good as stock and shift fast but I still only have 400 miles on em
10-17-2013
snizzletoff

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Originally Posted by froggyfredd

I still love my sychros from synchrotech they are as good as stock and shift fast but I still only have 400 miles on em

I'm not trying to put you down, really I'm not. But if they are "as good as stock" why not just get stock ones lol

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10-17-2013
froggyfredd

Oh it don't bother me man lol as long as they don't disintegrate on me and I could never find stock ones that I didn't have to but the whole synchro assembly with :/

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