Morphines Slowly Spiraling Outta Control Build Thread…

So after many death threats and nagging from a good friend of mine here on the forums Adm_Rsx (Adam), I’ve decided to finally make a build thread to catalog and share this expensive journey towards some serious boost. Little bit of some boring back story here, I’m a college student and paid for majority of this build on a part time salary and the shear will of wanting to finish what I started. The car wouldn’t even be near this stage if it wasn’t for Adam’s input, knowledge about our cars, and late night visits so a huge thanks to him for all that he’s done.

Back in early 2011 my motor decided it had enough and tossed a rod through the block to make sure it got its point across. So began the long drawn out process of saving up to get the car back on the road. I first decided that I had some interest in road racing and would stay all motor. I figured I’d grab a k24 block just for the added tq and displacement. Bought one sleeved it and ran across Adam’s Rotrex build thread. At that point I was still interested in road racing and figured a supercharger with its constant powerband would be a good decision on the track, and Rotrex put up impressive numbers. I pm’d Adam back and forth with questions about which blower to get, different setups, where to buy it from, etc.

Now I believe it was a week or two before I had enough to buy the Rotrex blower that Imports vs Domestics was @ MIR (back when it was Miller vs. Palo) and I saw just how much potential our cars had and wanted to be a part of that. At around that same time my friend was finishing up his 62mm build on a fully built JDM H22 Prelude. Once he finished that out and I got a ride on a low boost tune of 10 psi I knew I had to get out of the bitch seat and behind the wheel of my own boosted machine; so I nutted up ditched the road racing idea and bought a Twinscroll 6266. I had originally intended to just have a fun street car to enjoy on a nice day… BUT fast forwarding to after I got a better job and some more parts started rolling in(Pistons, AEM, Magnus, blah blah) I ditched the street turbo with the goal of hitting the 10.5 index and bought a Twinscroll BorgWarner S400SX 67mm FMW Turbo… Now I’m aware the 62mm may have got me to my goal but I have plans beyond the 10.5 in the future and figured its easier to sell a unused turbo.

Presently as the car sits now, the sleeved K24 is sitting in the bay pretty much N/A awaiting some forced induction…I’m currently finishing out purchasing all the parts to my dual 044 fuel setup and the car will soon be headed to FREED Engineering to fabricate piping an clean up anything I see fit. A cage is obviously in the near future for competition purposes but it’s time I get this turbo set up completed and installed. From all motor- to supercharged- to turbo- to BIG ASS turbo…build is far from complete but this is it’s current state, stay tuned.

Engine

K20 head/ K24 bottom
Benson Sleeves
AC & Power Steering Deleted
Heater Core Deleted
Twist Oil Cube
Innovative 85a Mounts
AEM digital gauges (boost, oil, afr)
Supertech valvetrain
K Tuned Electric Water Pump Kit Blockoff Plate w/ Meziere Water pump
10:1 88mm CP pistons
Cometic Head gasket
Hondata Thermal gasket
Eagle H beam rods (looking to upgrade these at a later date)
ACL bearings & All new OEM motor seals
Magnus K Series Intake Manifold
74mm S90 Throttle Body
Godspeed 3 Core Half Civic Radiator (works surprisingly well, may go custom though)
AEM ECU

Turbo Setup

Fab-Worx T4 Twinscroll Turbo manifold with 44mm Wastegate flanges
Precision 46mm WG’s x2
Tial 50 Q BOV
Treadstone TRV25 (May go custom but this should definitely get the job done for now)
FREED Engineering will be fabricating my Up-pipe, Dual WG dumps through the hood, and my Intercooler piping. As well as any custom work or fixes I think need to be done.
MAC 4 port boost controller
Borg Warner S400x 67mm w/Race Cover

Transmission

Clutch Masters Twin Disc (currently needs a rebuild, stg 4 competition installed for now)
Stock 5 Speed Base Trans (Praying this will hold together until I can upgrade)
M factory LSD
----Looking into buying a billet shifter box w/ Mtec Springs and hybrid cables---

Fuel

Surge Tank – Dual -10an feed with x3 -8an returns
x2 -10an Aeromotive 10 Micron Platinum Series Fuel Filters
x2 Bosch 044 Fuel Pumps
Aeromotive 340lph In-tank
Ktuned Pro1000 Fuel rail
Weldon FPR
FIC 1100cc’s (I assume I’ll have to go bigger in the future)
Black Braided Lines
**Going for dual -10an feeds to both sides of the rail then a center -8an return**

This is the general essence of the build when I can remember more I’ll update this

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What are the specs on that new turbo 0_o its huge

Everybody calls him "ricer rob" in our parts so please continue here. Thanks:thumb:

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What are the specs on that new turbo 0_o its huge

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It's a 67mm Twinscroll 1.10 A/R, Turbine Wheel is 87mm

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Originally Posted by Adm_rsx

Everybody calls him "ricer rob" in our parts so please continue here. Thanks:thumb:

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:bat:...No one calls me that btw lol

welcome aboard bro!!

Looking sharp with the turbo setup

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welcome aboard bro!!

Looking sharp with the turbo setup

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Hey, thanks! I really just wanna enjoy all the hard work for now until next race season, which I'm hoping to be ready for. So ill try and keep the power moderate until I get comfortable with driving it...Your build is pretty sick as well though man, can't wait to get boosted as the weather is changing for the better.

That is a huge turbo or you got small little girl hands like Adam lol.

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That is a huge turbo or you got small little girl hands like Adam lol.

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[MENTION=209]ksboi[/MENTION] your the one with the women's bball posted next to your turbo. Lol.

lmbo if that was a girls bball then the turbo would be a T28 [MENTION=56]Adm_rsx[/MENTION]

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lmbo if that was a girls bball then the turbo would be a T28 [MENTION=56]Adm_rsx[/MENTION]

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Then you have a TD04E. Lol

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You gotta show the 29.5 on the ball or bust...

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You gotta show the 29.5 on the ball or bust...

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Lol it's an old ball. I'm surprised it still has the "NBA" and Spalding logo. An don't doubt me...ya bish.


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Looks like a nerf basketball [MENTION=117]Bottled Morphine[/MENTION]

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Looks like a nerf basketball [MENTION=117]Bottled Morphine[/MENTION]

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It's my training basketball, I'm not ready for a real one yet lol.


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damn I love that rod you pulled out!


Real nice intake manifold you have too!

This is mine here. http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...x/479d397e.jpg

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This is mine here. http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...x/479d397e.jpg

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Pfft man... ain't nobody got time for dat...

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damn I love that rod you pulled out!


Real nice intake manifold you have too!

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Haha right?! Live an learn though I try an monitor everything I can with this new motor now. An yeah I haven't seen too many rsx's with a Magnus manifold, I liked that it has built in velocity stacks so I figured I'd try it out! Was gonna go with a center feed but this should prove fine.

That is a huge turbo! You may want to look into a cosworth headgasket though for the powerlevels and boost levels you'll be running.

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Originally Posted by aLmk

That is a huge turbo! You may want to look into a cosworth headgasket though for the powerlevels and boost levels you'll be running.

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Cosworth? Haven't heard of em before. I'll check that out though, thanks for the heads up.


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Just in doing a quick search in that head gasket I only saw a 90mm bore gasket. And it was only 1.1mm thick. [MENTION=789]VitViper[/MENTION] what gasket are you using? I saw you put some more torque on the head bolts as well, what were those specs if you don't mind me asking.

Vit is using cosworth pretty sure. That's why I recommended it. He lifted his head running like 25 psi or whatever. He got a better head gasket, pretty sure cosworth, and torque the arp head studs above their rating to prevent the head lifting. And cosworth is a company that makes formula one engines and stuff like that.

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Vit is using cosworth pretty sure. That's why I recommended it. He lifted his head running like 25 psi or whatever. He got a better head gasket, pretty sure cosworth, and torque the arp head studs above their rating to prevent the head lifting. And cosworth is a company that makes formula one engines and stuff like that.

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I understand that. But I wanted to know if he used some specific numbers while torquing the head down after lifting. He said it lifted at 19lbs I believe it over 700whp.

Ya I don't remember the exact boost levels but he has a big turbo so it is moving a LOT of air at 19 psi. Isn't arp's rating 80ft/lbs? I think he may have gone to 100. But hopefully he chimes in here.

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Ya I don't remember the exact boost levels but he has a big turbo so it is moving a LOT of air at 19 psi. Isn't arp's rating 80ft/lbs? I think he may have gone to 100. But hopefully he chimes in here.

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Yea I believe arp is around 80ft/lbs. I haven't don't a k series yet so I haven't looked that up. That info I think I remember seeing it on his website "myvtecbroke".

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Yea I believe arp is around 80ft/lbs. I haven't don't a k series yet so I haven't looked that up. That info I think I remember seeing it on his website "myvtecbroke".

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Imma buy that Mac controller soon from him. It's good stuff.


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Yea I believe arp is around 80ft/lbs. I haven't don't a k series yet so I haven't looked that up. That info I think I remember seeing it on his website "myvtecbroke".

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Ya I think 80 is he standard torque rating for arp head studs. He over torqued them in an effort to fix his head lifting I think that and cosworth head gasket did the trick.

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Ya I don't remember the exact boost levels but he has a big turbo so it is moving a LOT of air at 19 psi. Isn't arp's rating 80ft/lbs? I think he may have gone to 100. But hopefully he chimes in here.

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[MENTION=789]VitViper[/MENTION]

The standard ARP torque rating for high HP turbo K's using the 3/8" studs is garbage. You will push coolant.

First time I lifted the head was after 22psi boost cut at 80ft lbs on the studs. I retorqued the studs to 90ft lbs and lifted the head again at 26psi boost cut. I then replaced the shitty Cometic HG with a Cosworth HG and new ARP studs, torqued to 100ft lbs. Have seen 26psi with no problems now.

Yes, I just shared some sweet secret info...

I just went thru the same thing or am in the process of it at least ..I lifted the head on my engine on the dyno at 23 lbs of boost 640+ whp last week . ARP head studs were at 80 ft lbs per my snap on torque wrench. I was also running a Cometic head gasket .The head and block were just refinished and have since diassembly been been confirmed straight and true .I now have an OEM head gasket ,Arp assembly lubricant I got from Jegs for the top of the studs as we didn't use it when we put it together and I have spoken to arp and confirmed the torque to be 80 ft lbs on the studs .Funny thing to me is I have run unopened K 20s with only ARP studs to over 30 lbs of boost many many times on stock head gaskets and never had an issue.Therefore I am probably sticking with OEM head gaskets from now on .

what about using GE headstuds/A1 headstuds? I just had my head slightly lift at 21lbs on arp torqued at 80. im going try a1 headstuds with oem gasket

Hell Mines apart right now and gonna go back together later this week. I have the ARP studs now but hadn't consider the others I just assumed everyone ran ARPs .I guess I am about to do a little google searchin

THe legit fix is to use 1/2" studs.

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Originally Posted by VitViper

THe legit fix is to use 1/2" studs.

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That's exactly what we had to do in our B-series race car , 1/2" headstuds FTW

Well machining the block and head at this time is out of the question as it just got together many have used the 7/16 studs w/o issue and I am gonna try it again .I now have all the stuff to do it and a newly calibrated torque wrench so I'm gonna re assemble it with the standard arp studs and hope it holds this time .

Problem is rethreading for 1/2" studs when the motors built already and in the car.