Head gasket? I believe mine to be a cosmetic multilayer. I'll use the same thing again just for a bigger bore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Si Speed 317
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Head gasket? I believe mine to be a cosmetic multilayer. I'll use the same thing again just for a bigger bore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Si Speed 317
This makes me sad man im sorry to hear about this.
But it makes me glad I did everything myself on my build. Because I wouldn't be able to keep myself from holding the shop responsible and im sure they don't give 2cents.
This is a nice build with respectable parts seems like things like this don't happen if it is put together right.
Do you have a picture of cylinder 1 walls?
To me it looks like cylinder 1 didn't have the proper amount of clearance for the piston to expand once it heated.
It probably came with a spec sheet that specified the needed clearance for heat expansion.
It looks like it was too tight
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I have similar thoughts as well. I won't point fingers at the shop even though I asked for things and they weren't done. One of which I know would have cleared my name from this whole thing. I showed a picture of the top of that piston and the shop plus many others said it was too lean. I was owed a new sensor for my aem wide and. BUT I didn't get it. And of course me and the shop had no contact once I picked my car up and finished it myself until AFTER it blew up. It's whatever though. It's my fault for not checking to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECFRED
I still believe you may be right about expansions ect but who really knows.
I will grab a shot of the cylinder wall tonight when I get home.
Post pictures of the top of the piston. I want to see why they think it was running lean.
running lean doesn't do that to the side skirt of your piston :( unless you have already burned through the ring lands
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http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...x/c13ff44c.jpg
That is the piston with the wrecked skirt.
Looks like 2 issues. Lean and too much timing. Can you take a picture of the other pistons and the rings of that piston on the clean side
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Just found a gold mine of information for you http://www.boosttown.com/engine/piston_damage.pdf
With pictures I might add I am going to read every word LOL and look at all the (Less than pretty) pictures
Enjoy
^ Awesome
After looking through that book a bit looks like its pointing to improper clearance I don't show signs of timing it doesn't look like detonation to me. I do say it's lean as well but none of the other pistons have the scarring on it like cylinder 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECFRED
Do you have a micrometer? You measure all your cylinder walls and see what the difference is then at the very least ask for them to redo it the right way out get your money back.
Im difficult to deal with if I pay for a service that isn't done right. It is in moments like these that you find out what kind of business you're dealing with. I know mistakes happen that doesn't bother me as much as a company that doesn't stand behind their work or product.
For example I wont mention any names but I bought a turbo from a company and it smoked very badly but because it took me 4 months to get to a point where I could install it I was out of my 90 day return and exchange.
They were not willing to work with me at all. So I wrote a review on their website, posted my experience on their facebook page, and shared my experience on their youtube channel. Only after repeated attempts to give them a chance to make it right.
They asked me to remove my comments and shipped me a new turbo I just had to pay for shipping.
:):beer:
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I am now on my second built motor from the company. The tech who worked on the first motor was entirely to blame for the engine failure. But the shop didn't see it that way. I know what really happened but it's whatever. And in all honesty it could be that I had the motor too lean and it fried a ring and caused it to crack which then started scarring the skirt all up but who knows. BUT I do know if my owed O2 sensor was actually given to me and replaced that wouldn't even be a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECFRED
1-1/2 years in the shop and again here I sit with a fucked up motor...
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Originally Posted by VTECFRED
This is just insane. I would have flipped a while ago. I understand mistakes happen, but you have to deal with this and then ALL-IN never gets back to you, it's just too much BS. The modding world shouldn't be like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Adm_rsx
It's all good man. I see it like this... I'll take my time. I'll use what resources I can and I'll give credit to the companies who I deal with who do good work along the way. I won't bash anymore. Every shop has their horror stories just as they have their successes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Si Speed 317
^ Absolutely, but in my eyes the shops with horror stories that don't correct them should be known. It's one thing if they make an error and correct it, because after all we're only human. But to not correct a mistake and change the blame - that's a different story.
Glad you're staying positive throughout it all though
Adam are you having a hard time getting ahold of derek@allinfab?
Yea just a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by E85power
:rotfl: Only a little
^lol^
:ohsnap: I said it! :ohsnap:
Once I recieve my kit (if I ever do) I will for sure voice my opinion about Derek at all-in-fab. Until then I don't need to piss him off anymore and have less customer service.....
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I hear that man. I know what it's like to wait and wait and wait some more for someone else to do something for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
Not fun for sure... waiting though isn't bad... being kept in the dark though not knowing anything or getting updates is what's the hardest part
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Definitely man. Well the good news for you is I saw his civic torn apart to do the mock ups for other orders he had to do so I assume you'll have it before too long now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
Hey man what's the latest on your car?
Picking up a k24a2 Saturday and will install over the next couple weeks. Anything new with yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by E85power
Nothing yet. Waiting on some parts to arrive :)
Adam I'm dying to know what this 92 can produce power wise so get on it :p
Lmao. Me too dude. I'm waiting in a couple fittings and once I get rolling again I can start posting pictures again. But this is where it's at for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by E85power
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...020CFBB851.jpg
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...01DE161064.jpg
At least you have a motor that's a start :)
I love bringing home a new k24 lol
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Yessir. Tapping the ports on the head tonight so they will be ready for the motor to drop in after I clean up the motor some.Quote:
Originally Posted by E85power
Hell yea dude. Rather good news was there was still blue coolant in the motor when I pulled the thermostat. Means to me that it was low mileage like advertised and it was maintained.
9/18/12
So today I picked up a couple fittings from a friend to plug and plumb the head of the k24a2 since I'm using a modified RBC intake manifold. So I went out and bought a set of taps.
I needed 3/8" NPT and 1/2" NPT taps.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps341a738e.jpg
So I got home and got to work.
I broke out a 16mm 12pt socket as my tap wrench since I couldn't find a proper tool.
I wanted to ensure No metals got into the head at all so for the EGR port I bundled a paper towel and put that in the hole to catch the shavings
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps8b9446bf.jpg
Then lubed up the tap with some liquid wrench
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...psf658d1ff.jpg
And started tapping
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps6cb4b484.jpg
I went in about a 1/2" and reversed to clear the flutes. Here's why I had the paper towel in the hole.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps6051196b.jpg
Pulled the paper towel out using needle nose pliers. And the outcome was
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps8231e654.jpg
A decent looking thread.
Moved onto the coolant port of the head and finished.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...psfb17f647.jpg
Added the hoses and thermostat housing
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps677b0bcd.jpg
Along the way I put my belt tensioner, alternator, and ac compressor.
Still a few more things to be done then I can install.
I will not be installing the blower right away. So it will be weak and powerless but at least it will be driveable.
Nice start I remember tapping my z3 head too.
I was going to tap mine if I stayed supercharged. Nice work
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Thanks guys. Never did it before and was trying my best not to wreck the head. But turned out much easier then I thought.
oh yeah that aluminum cuts easy!
Yea man. I'm tap plastics at my job so I was used to the process but the material was a huge change of pace for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaz
Slap this bitch in already :p
Lmao. I'm trying man. I killed myself by buying it do I have to wait a week or 2 to order the remaining sensorsQuote:
Originally Posted by E85power