Supercharged CHAT Thread

[bulliedog]

i also saw the new eaton supercharger on mercracing site.. how well do you think this will be compare to our old skool jackson

Well it is a more efficient roots style blower. They call it a hybrid between the TS and a true roots style blower. The biggest advantage with running the TVS over a Whipple is the internal by-pass. They sized a little different and until there are a few out there putting down numbers it will be harder to tell what size to actually compares to past Whipple or bigger roots style blowers.

[scfg206]

Need to know what size belt to use for my 06 civic si Jackson racing supercharger setup with 3inch (2.95in) blower pulley by Merc racing and crv crank pulley...need to know what belt size I need for this combo. Any info from anyone running this setup would be great thanks.

[bulliedog]

Need to know what size belt to use for my 06 civic si Jackson racing supercharger setup with 3inch (2.95in) blower pulley by Merc racing and crv crank pulley...need to know what belt size I need for this combo. Any info from anyone running this setup would be great thanks.

mostly no one is really going to have that info do to people normally go with the 6.37" pulley. You could try a 61.5" and go from there. Make sure you put it on by the crank pulley, not the blower pulley.

[beppe]

which header shall i use? gonna be used with my JRSC at 10psi

Toda = Tegiwa copy
Kiddracing = Plm copy

Plm will mate up to a custom exhaust easy, and has 4in longer primaries

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10904594_333728726821073_3068839222638401931_o.jpg

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[bluEP3_SC]

which header shall i use? gonna be used with my JRSC at 10psi

Toda = Tegiwa copy
Kiddracing = Plm copy

Plm will mate up to a custom exhaust easy, and has 4in longer primaries

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10904594_333728726821073_3068839222638401931_o.jpg

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I like my PLM. I have it mated to a custom 3in exhaust and it has supported over 400whp with the jrsc. Best bang for your buck if you ask me.


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[beppe]

I like my PLM. I have it mated to a custom 3in exhaust and it has supported over 400whp with the jrsc. Best bang for your buck if you ask me.


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great thanks... hows the k20a swap going?

[PetefromtheStreets]

Have you guys read about that 627whp supercharged accord IMW tuned? Absolutely insane. 29psi!

[bluEP3_SC]

great thanks... hows the k20a swap going?

It's pulling hard. Adding a TSX crank pulley this winter along with a new progressive meth controller and a custom 3.5in cold air intake with a larger meth nozzle. How's yours?


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[bluEP3_SC]

Have you guys read about that 627whp supercharged accord IMW tuned? Absolutely insane. 29psi!

Yea Tim has created a monster. I've been following his accord since his mild m62 build days. That car is a beast


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[PetefromtheStreets]

Yea Tim has created a monster. I've been following his accord since his mild m62 build days. That car is a beast


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Yea I just found out about the car. Its definitely a beast. Im pretty jelly of them power numbers. Lol

[bluEP3_SC]

Yea I just found out about the car. Its definitely a beast. Im pretty jelly of them power numbers. Lol

You can find his build thread on k20a.org. Tim is a standup guy- he has been developing that setup for years now. Makes me want a TVS rather than my old skool m62


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[bluEP3_SC]

Tim just broke the supercharged game... With an accord haha

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=175201

[SAX JONZ]

Hey guys. I went to Brazil and was hoping to hook up with everton to see that beast ass civic but no luck. He seems to be a baller and in Brazil that is no understatment. People live life there very simple and so few modified cars. I wanted to take pictures of some of the cars there as I saw a custom made formula one looking beast and another urban assault vehicle with two huge tractor looking wheels on each side. Damn. Going to have to get my cousin to take those pics for me if he could. Those were pretty wild looking.
Anyway, I have questions and was wondering this time about exhausts. Anyone with a DC5 tried that new oval 3inch from ktuned? Wondering about that sound and clearance.

[PetefromtheStreets]

Hey guys. I went to Brazil and was hoping to hook up with everton to see that beast ass civic but no luck. He seems to be a baller and in Brazil that is no understatment. People live life there very simple and so few modified cars. I wanted to take pictures of some of the cars there as I saw a custom made formula one looking beast and another urban assault vehicle with two huge tractor looking wheels on each side. Damn. Going to have to get my cousin to take those pics for me if he could. Those were pretty wild looking.
Anyway, I have questions and was wondering this time about exhausts. Anyone with a DC5 tried that new oval 3inch from ktuned? Wondering about that sound and clearance.
I have a few friends who have it. None of them make any power tho. Lol so im unsure of the sound from a supercharged car

[SAX JONZ]

I guess that's the key right. Lol oh well. How you been? Happy New Years. I was in nyc for a minute. Lots of cool stuff. This summer we need to all meet up somewhere.


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[Si Speed 317]

Tim just broke the supercharged game... With an accord haha

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=175201
That build is DOPE. Love the info that follows in the thread too. Would be cool to have that here

Hey guys. I went to Brazil and was hoping to hook up with everton to see that beast ass civic but no luck. He seems to be a baller and in Brazil that is no understatment. People live life there very simple and so few modified cars. I wanted to take pictures of some of the cars there as I saw a custom made formula one looking beast and another urban assault vehicle with two huge tractor looking wheels on each side. Damn. Going to have to get my cousin to take those pics for me if he could. Those were pretty wild looking.
Anyway, I have questions and was wondering this time about exhausts. Anyone with a DC5 tried that new oval 3inch from ktuned? Wondering about that sound and clearance.

Regarding everton, that's unfortunate you couldn't see him. Def seems to be a baller. But a cool guy. Awesome you went to Brazil though! (Say Brazil the way Toretto did when Hobbes walked up on him in the late night racing scene in Fast 5)

[SAX JONZ]

Yeah, he probably doesn't speak English, or maybe he does, but he's definitely a baller. In Brazil people don't come up to that level unless they got stacks. Anyway, maybe next time. Brazil was bangin.


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[SAX JONZ]

442 average for Brazil. 443 she looks young but she was at least 23. 444445to bodaciously bangin ass. Yeah, it happens. This is the only thing unique about Brazil. I mean, you can't say any woman looks Brazilian. But that booty nobody would mistake for anything other than Brazil.


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[PetefromtheStreets]

442 average for Brazil. 443 she looks young but she was at least 23. 444445to bodaciously bangin ass. Yeah, it happens. This is the only thing unique about Brazil. I mean, you can't say any woman looks Brazilian. But that booty nobody would mistake for anything other than Brazil.


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Lmfaooo. Im tryna hit Brazil. Anyone down?

[SAX JONZ]

Lemme know. I was looking at buying a penthouse two bedroom pimp condo for 350,000r around 120k.


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[SAX JONZ]

447 it's the building on left top floor facing beach with pool and jacuzzi on roof. All granite and glass.


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[SAX JONZ]

We'd be the Kings of the beach and be able to rent and make money which would be a lucrative deal.


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[beppe]

sold the jrsc dont know if i should go rotrex or tvs1320??

been looking at c38 rotrex charger is that too big for a jdm k20a engine? wanna keep stock internals. .

Thanks

[SAX JONZ]

I have the big boy on mine with stock internals. Been running strong for two years now. Go for it. I believe Pete Streets same size as well.

[bluEP3_SC]

sold the jrsc dont know if i should go rotrex or tvs1320??

been looking at c38 rotrex charger is that too big for a jdm k20a engine? wanna keep stock internals. .

Thanks

Hate to say it- but I'm not that far behind you. Look at TTS performance- the c38-81 race kit would be an awesome setup for your k20a. Absolutely safe for a stock motor- look up Jaydee on k20a.org. He is the rotrex guru- his stock motor k20z1 on a c38-81 made over 500whp. I am SERIOUSLY considering selling out for a TTS EP full race kit. 👍

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=86410


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[SAX JONZ]

38-91 all in fab fmic radiator, supertech valve springs,titanium 2.2 drag cartels and port polish, lots of fun.

[bluEP3_SC]

38-91 all in fab fmic radiator, supertech valve springs,titanium 2.2 drag cartels and port polish, lots of fun.

Looks sick. Did you have to notch your subframe for the bigger charger? Did you get a custom rad made or half size? So many questions haha


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[SAX JONZ]

No. But I did lose front bumper. Ill take some pics if you want. Just lmk.

[SAX JONZ]

The radiator support was cut up a bit though.

[bluEP3_SC]

Yea I can see that. Is that the kraftwerks DIY full race kit?


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[SAX JONZ]

No, it was pieced together by a shop out of jersey by a guy who had it on his ep3 then sold to me and fitted by Jason Su from Suja 1. The build was more ambitious than were my skills. They did an awesome job with the welding and cutting. Next time I will attempt it. But that said, you can not go wrong with rotrex.


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[SAX JONZ]

Lots of modding to make work unlike the civic boys who just bolt on and tune. 😡 no worries.


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[bluEP3_SC]

Lots of modding to make work unlike the civic boys who just bolt on and tune. 😡 no worries.


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I wish there was a bolt on and go option in the US for my civic. I'd sell my jrsc in a heart beat!


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[SAX JONZ]

449 checked out this website?


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[bluEP3_SC]

449 checked out this website?


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That would be nice if I had an 8th gen. The DIY race kit is the best I can do


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[bluEP3_SC]

That would be nice if I had an 8th gen. The DIY race kit is the best I can do. I'm in the same boat as you


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[SAX JONZ]

This kit that was on my car came off an EP3. So I think you can do it. Or do 2.4. That'll make you smile with that jrsc kit.


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[bluEP3_SC]

This kit that was on my car came off an EP3. So I think you can do it. Or do 2.4. That'll make you smile with that jrsc kit.


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Haha dude I'm way ahead of you. My old jrsc k24 setup ended up at 416whp/305wtq before the blower popped. Unfortunately for us with the EP or DC5 chassis- the kraftwerks DIY kit is all that's available... But it looks completely worth the custom work.


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[beppe]

so on the dc5 chassis the bottam mounted c38 charger is too big and needs modification to fit??

do you guys know any good places to source just the charger kit and bottam mount.. there too expensive here in london..

thanks

[SAX JONZ]

I will take a picture. Mine looks to have plenty of space. It's just the piping that gets in the way. When you see how mine is mounted you'll get a better idea of what you can do, Beppe
And 2.4 with that 416 is awesome. I always heard they don't make as much power so I never even considered it but I think I read that the Rotrex is good for 650 on a 2.4. No way that's happening on stock internals.


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[bluEP3_SC]

so on the dc5 chassis the bottam mounted c38 charger is too big and needs modification to fit??

do you guys know any good places to source just the charger kit and bottam mount.. there too expensive here in london..

thanks

I think TTS makes a DIY kit, which is basically the charger, mounting bracket, and oil pieces. It is pretty much the same as our kraftwerks DIY kit. You would need custom intercooler with piping- these guys have good examples of what you would need to do. It would take some work but you could be looking at 4-500whp on that stock k20a with the right charger and bolt ons!


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[SAX JONZ]

I'm thinking that tq number is pretty awesome. My numbers for a k20 are lower than I expected. 450
But there is always E85 and with version 4 KPRO I can run dual fuel so that's nice. Damn, your kit made more powa than mine does. It's a conservative dyno but yeah, maybe it's time to go back to drawing board.


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[bluEP3_SC]

I'm thinking that tq number is pretty awesome. My numbers for a k20 are lower than I expected. 450
But there is always E85 and with version 4 KPRO I can run dual fuel so that's nice. Damn, your kit made more powa than mine does. It's a conservative dyno but yeah, maybe it's time to go back to drawing board.


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Now your using the DC2.2 cams right? You should take a look at that k20a.org link I posted. Jaydee has been experimenting and developing his rotrex atom for a long time now and he has made a TON of power on it. His stock motor k20z1 with c38-81, meth injection, and pump 91 made 540whp when he added a RRC intake and a 74mm throttle body.... That's turbo #s.

Maybe those cams are hurting your setup? You could be blowing most of your intake charge right out the exhaust. How does your boost curve look? Might be worth it to try a set of oem k20a/z1/z3 cams in your k20 and see how it goes.



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[SAX JONZ]

Maybe. I still have my z1 cams. Meth injection? That may be where the power comes in. My car has a worked skunk 2 with HR 74mm TB. I would hate to know that I put that money in to a set of cams when stock would pull better numbers. I'll definitely look in to all the details. Maybe I should try meth injection. Was going to run the E85 and see where that got me. At the moment I'm trying to get the body together and perhaps a set of track dedicated coilovers. If I make much more power then I may run in to other issues...namely the trans. I do think I'm making too low for what I have in it. Was thinking I should have gotten close to five hundred but I'll definitely look in to it.


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[bluEP3_SC]

Generally speaking- your right. The old school jrsc kits generally don't make as much power because they are not overly efficient. My kit has been rebuilt and ported for higher rpm usage, and is helped along by an aftercooler and a meth injection kit. I also use e85 along with pump gas. To date- I have not seen any one else, k20 or k24, make more than mine in stock form.

Your rotrex setup is the future though. It's small, light weight, and full of power potential. A little bit of tweaking and reworking and you could easily be up in the 500whp range. I think once I'm satisfied I've gotten the most out of my jrsc I'm gonna go the kraftwerks route


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[bluEP3_SC]

Maybe. I still have my z1 cams. Meth injection? That may be where the power comes in. My car has a worked skunk 2 with HR 74mm TB. I would hate to know that I put that money in to a set of cams when stock would pull better numbers. I'll definitely look in to all the details. Maybe I should try meth injection. Was going to run the E85 and see where that got me. At the moment I'm trying to get the body together and perhaps a set of track dedicated coilovers. If I make much more power then I may run in to other issues...namely the trans. I do think I'm making too low for what I have in it. Was thinking I should have gotten close to five hundred but I'll definitely look in to it.


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http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=86410

Take a look- this thread has a TON of good info for you. It'll get you where you want to be.


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[beppe]

thinking of uprading to new kpro v4 does anyone know does it anything like boost by gear for supercharged car? want to limit boost 1st and 2nd gear.. i know boost cant be altered on belt driven supercharger but this new v4 might have something to retard timing to help traction

[PetefromtheStreets]

thinking of uprading to new kpro v4 does anyone know does it anything like boost by gear for supercharged car? want to limit boost 1st and 2nd gear.. i know boost cant be altered on belt driven supercharger but this new v4 might have something to retard timing to help traction
Look up vit vipers website. He has a bbg for supercharged cars.

[SAX JONZ]

I checked him out and I think my numbers are on the low side. Pete, what were you making on k20? I'm getting greedy for more. Lol


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[SAX JONZ]

Blu, I read through that thread. Pretty cool stuff. I hope to get it all sorted this summer.


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[bluEP3_SC]

Blu, I read through that thread. Pretty cool stuff. I hope to get it all sorted this summer.


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Yea I've read through that thread a couple times. I've actually adapted some of his findings into my jrsc build. It's really good stuff


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[SAX JONZ]

I spoke with a rep at DC and before I even mentioned he answered my questions about what I'm making and the boost I was pushing. He also mentioned that I could get that power but that I needed to build the internals or risk catastrophic engine failure. So I guess what I have is fine for now but 2.4 could be right around the corner. Who knows.


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[beppe]

quick question..

does the dc5 rsx jrsc manifold fit whipple and other superchargers?

thanks

[bluEP3_SC]

quick question..

does the dc5 rsx jrsc manifold fit whipple and other superchargers?

thanks

Yes sir.

Mercracing.net - talk to Jose about the whipple conversion

[bluEP3_SC]

Another day on the dyno. Pulled out 382whp/254wtq on e85 and 354whp/238wtq on 93. All @14psi

[Si Speed 317]

Another day on the dyno. Pulled out 382whp/254wtq on e85 and 354whp/238wtq on 93. All @14psi

Nice!!! Video or sheet? I'd like to see your powerband

[SAX JONZ]

+1


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[PetefromtheStreets]

I checked him out and I think my numbers are on the low side. Pete, what were you making on k20? I'm getting greedy for more. Lol


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I made 398whp on the c38-81 hitting 17psi with a conservative tuner and small fmic. That was on a stock bottom end and head

[SAX JONZ]

I'm only making about 8-12pounds boost.


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[bluEP3_SC]

Nice!!! Video or sheet? I'd like to see your powerband

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah255/hopsta49/04025AF5-6E0E-45FB-ACBF-BC09A24B8ED2_zpsgwwgudlf.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/hopsta49/media/04025AF5-6E0E-45FB-ACBF-BC09A24B8ED2_zpsgwwgudlf.jpg.html)
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah255/hopsta49/FE754079-505F-4FBE-A7E5-32FC43AA450E_zpshfz6x6dh.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/hopsta49/media/FE754079-505F-4FBE-A7E5-32FC43AA450E_zpshfz6x6dh.jpg.html)


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http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah255/hopsta49/04025AF5-6E0E-45FB-ACBF-BC09A24B8ED2_zpsgwwgudlf.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/hopsta49/media/04025AF5-6E0E-45FB-ACBF-BC09A24B8ED2_zpsgwwgudlf.jpg.html)
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah255/hopsta49/FE754079-505F-4FBE-A7E5-32FC43AA450E_zpshfz6x6dh.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/hopsta49/media/FE754079-505F-4FBE-A7E5-32FC43AA450E_zpshfz6x6dh.jpg.html)


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Nice!! Beautiful powerband. Running without a filter is balsy af though

[bluEP3_SC]

Nice!! Beautiful powerband. Running without a filter is balsy af though

Thanks. It has an AEM dry flow for everyday- just use the velocity stack for the dyno and track


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[beppe]

anyone know who made this kit?

air to air cooler for jrsc.. i can see the logic behind it.. just wanted more info on the kit its a old kit..

air channel to one pipe then to intercooler then back up into the manifold

http://i60.tinypic.com/2qmggnn.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/142g3t1.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2vjzrd5.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2la5wfo.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/124uc91.jpg

[PetefromtheStreets]

anyone know who made this kit?

air to air cooler for jrsc.. i can see the logic behind it.. just wanted more info on the kit its a old kit..

air channel to one pipe then to intercooler then back up into the manifold

http://i60.tinypic.com/2qmggnn.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/142g3t1.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2vjzrd5.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2la5wfo.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/124uc91.jpg
Seems like something jose mercado made

[beppe]

this isnt a mercracing one.. ive asked Jose lets see if he knows