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VTECFRED
07-10-2012, 11:55 PM
So like most I started out with a cold air intake, ran a catless exhaust, then ran a larger exhaust, then bought flashpro, then that was it time to get serious. Like most once you feel power from an upgrade you get addicted to experiment with different tunes different settings to get MOAR POWER.

I dynoed on a Dyno Dynamics and a base flashpro map with CAI, and exhaust but only made 177HP because it was untuned and way rich. Like 11.9:1 LOL that was FAIL! All you have to do is read :paper:

So I started learning how to adjust the fuel map with FlashPro and found a lot of other settings that help make more power HA! Imagine that!

After watching YouTube videos of boosted Civics and seeing those RPM's rev to fuel cut faster than I thought was possible... Yeah it was time to BOOST LOL

I started out with a smaller turbo build I pieced together consisting of a top mount log manifold and a small turbo like .63 AR turbine and .60 AR compressor. Modified my stock fuel injectors and started street tuning and ended up with 344HP on the same Dyno Dynamics.

When I couldn't get anymore power from those mods I decided to look at what I needed for more. My friends said "Dude you have a problem" I agreed with them... I don't have enough boost! :waveyfinger:

I did the whole build myself
(other than the machine work such as boring and honing the cylinders and fitting the oversized valves).

I welded my own intercooler brackets and welded my own 3" stainless exhaust. I tore down and reassembled the whole motor myself in my garage. I surprised myself when it actually started the first time HEHE

And it now has over 4000 miles on the motor

The only way I was able to do this myself was I had the service manual in PDF form for torque specs and reassurance I was putting things back where they go :)

I pulled the motor out in January 2012 and finished April 27th 2012

Car:
2008 Honda Civic Si 75k miles

Motor:
K20z3

Gauges:
AEM Digital AFR UEGO Gauge
AEM Digital Boost Gauge

ECU:
Hondata FlashPro

Boost Control:
Hondata Boost Control Solenoid

Exhaust:
Custom 3 Exhaust (No CAT)
Custom 3 Downpipe
Custom 1.75 Dumptube
DCSport 3 Muffler
Sidewinder T3 Manifold (I cannot mention the name until I see it fits)

Clutch:
Competition Stage 4 Sprung - Strip Series 1620 Clutch Kit
Competition Flywheel 11LBS 2-800-STU

Valvetrain: Pictures coming soon
Brian Crower Stage 2 NA Cams BC0042-2
Brian Crower Dual spring, steel retainer/seat BC0040S
Brian Crower 7 Billet Keepers / Locks BC2940
Brian Crower 35.5mm Intake (+.5mm head diameter) BC3042
Brian Crower 30.5mm Exhaust (+.5mm head diameter) BC3043
Hybrid Racing K-series Timing Chain Tensioner
Cometic Headgasket 87mm

BottomEnd:
CP Flat Top Pistons w/ ProSeal Ring set CP70456
Cylinders bored and honed
Blueprint H-Beam Forged rods (Hybrid-Racing) BPCRK2001
ACL STD Rods, Main, Thrust bearings
ARP Headstuds 208-4701
Mishimoto oil Cooler kit MMOC-U
Enginetech Gaskets with Fire Seal technology HO2.4CS-A


Fuel System:
Walbro 255LPH-HP Fuel pump
Injector Dynamics ID1000 fuel injectors
K-Tuned Fuel rail with AN6 45 degree fitting and 6ft of AN6 fuel line

Cooling

Mishimoto Radiator (MMRAD-CIV-06si)
Mishimoto Silicone Radiator Hose Kit (MMHOSE-CIV-06) Color Blue
Civic Si Mishimoto Racing Thermostat (MMTS-CIV-06)

Misc Parts:
K-Tuned Upper Coolant Housing (W/Hose Fitting) KUW-24-258
K-Tuned Intake Manifold Heat Shield Gasket KTG-K24-MAN
K-Tuned Idle Air Assist Delete Kit KTD-AA-DEL
GodSpeed 44MM RS-Series Wastegate WG-008
Turbosmart 45mm on standby TS-0506-1002
Treadstone Performance TR12 Intercooler:
Core Size, 12.5" X 22" X 3.5"
Supports 700+HP
Treadstone Performance Intercooler piping 2.5
Injected Front and top torque dampeners
DEI Titanium Exhaust Wrap with LR Technology
Treadstone Performance T3 Turbo Heat Shield
HKS Blow Off Valve
Treadstone Performance Vacuum Distribution block
CX Racing Oil Feed and Return kit Oil-Kit-AN10-7PCS-AN10-S90
Hasport Rear Motor Mount U70A
Ingalls Stiffy Torque Damper

PICTURES
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THE NEW:
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3.14.2012 Welded brackets for the intercooler out 1/4 inch steel plate IT'S SOLID
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It's even
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Not feeling the oil cooler
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3.20.2012 Block is back
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Clearances are good
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Hybrid Racing timing chain tensioner and belt came in
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Mishimoto Radiator,thermostat and hoses
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ASSEMBLY HAS BEGUN

New Lost Motion Springs
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Not color coded... work with ya got :)
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Hybrid Timing Chain Tensioner
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New wheels
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PICTURES

VTECFRED
07-11-2012, 12:04 AM
:vtec:

RmSbBO0zOeM

Vi3l64cnVz4

GmVOzxB5GaA

This was the old kit
7UnWGftyyUc

VTECFRED
07-11-2012, 12:09 AM
7UnWGftyyUc

Si Speed 317
07-19-2012, 03:39 PM
I love this build. Very well documented, great setup. Puts the 8th gens up on the list!! Btw, what fitting did you have to use on the fuel rail to incorporate the OEM fuel line on the feed side? I need to figure it out.

VTECFRED
07-19-2012, 03:56 PM
I love this build. Very well documented, great setup. Puts the 8th gens up on the list!! Btw, what fitting did you have to use on the fuel rail to incorporate the OEM fuel line on the feed side? I need to figure it out.

Thank you! :)

If you're talking about the line up against the firewall I used the factory clip with the hose adapter and all(green clip black hose end and gray cover). The factory fuel line adapter has a barb fitting under the hose. I cut the stock hose off and slid the An6 fuel line over it. I used a fuel injection fuel line clamp to clamp it to the barb. I can post a picture tomorrow.

I am installing a full fuel return system tomorrow. If there wasn't already a how to out there on how to do the fuel return system I would do one. ;)

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monjarassi
07-20-2012, 02:59 AM
so the manifold is a PLM rite?

VTECFRED
07-20-2012, 05:25 AM
so the manifold is a PLM rite?

Yes, PLM manifold

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Si Speed 317
07-20-2012, 08:16 PM
Thank you! :)

If you're talking about the line up against the firewall I used the factory clip with the hose adapter and all(green clip black hose end and gray cover). The factory fuel line adapter has a barb fitting under the hose. I cut the stock hose off and slid the An6 fuel line over it. I used a fuel injection fuel line clamp to clamp it to the barb. I can post a picture tomorrow.

I am installing a full fuel return system tomorrow. If there wasn't already a how to out there on how to do the fuel return system I would do one. ;)

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Well, you know what they say... The more the merrier! If you could snap that shot for me, that would be greatly appreciated :wavey:

VTECFRED
07-22-2012, 09:36 PM
I installed a fuel return system Friday night. It took me 15 hours to install it LOL I don't know why but it did. I also changed my oil HEHE
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I was running 10.9:1 AFR between 7krpm and 8200rpm I did not have time to get my fuel map perfect. I was up all night Friday installing fuel return 1pm to 4am. And Saturday I tuned a little bit but did not have time until about 12am I stayed up until 6am doing street pulls. I went to bed at 7am and got back up at 9:30am to head to dyno day.

I love dyno days!! :woowoo:
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VTECFRED
07-22-2012, 09:45 PM
Well, you know what they say... The more the merrier! If you could snap that shot for me, that would be greatly appreciated :wavey:

Here you go. Fuel return line. I actually have -AN6 braided fuel line now. This was fuel injected rubber line I was using as a feed (SAE30R9 is rated to 100psi).

If anyone ever wondered why their fuel line busted it was probably the SAE30R7 which is only rated for 50psi.

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Spaz
07-23-2012, 08:17 PM
i want a car wash with those ladies.....

VTECFRED
07-23-2012, 09:22 PM
Btw I won 3rd place and the 3rd place prize was an hour of dyno time so I will break the 500hp mark even if it takes 25+lbs of boost :) I doubt it will hehe

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k20fg
07-23-2012, 10:11 PM
Congrats on 3rd place! What did First and Second put down?

Si Speed 317
07-23-2012, 11:24 PM
Congrats! Hott chicks, and car looks great man. +1 on what k20fg's post. And can you snap a pic of the feed line going into the fuel rail for me? That's the part I need

VTECFRED
07-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Congrats on 3rd place! What did First and Second put down?

First was a camero on a 150 shot of NOS @ 483HP and a cammed open header camero @ 470Hp

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Si Speed 317
07-23-2012, 11:36 PM
You could've had em! And btw I cleared my PM box.

VTECFRED
07-23-2012, 11:46 PM
You could've had em! And btw I cleared my PM box.

Replied...

Yeah the dude in second place was like I wasn't worried until you kept making more power lol I added a total 5 degrees of timing between pulls 401hp, 417hp, 443hp

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Si Speed 317
07-23-2012, 11:54 PM
Damn! I've always heard of bad things happening when people dyno their cars. I'm afraid to do mine because I'm afraid something will go wrong :nervous:

VTECFRED
07-24-2012, 12:05 AM
Damn! I've always heard of bad things happening when people dyno their cars. I'm afraid to do mine because I'm afraid something will go wrong :nervous:

Well I was watching my afr and knocks. I was running extremely rich and no knocks up top. My old tune I was running 17 degrees of timing this time I was at 10 degrees and added 5 degrees with live tuning.

What sucks is I made 421hp on 14psi of boost with a boost leak a couple of weeks ago. I fixed my boost leak and ran 21lbs this time and my first pull was only 401hp

Timing is everything lol

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VTECFRED
07-24-2012, 01:35 PM
Congrats! Hott chicks, and car looks great man. +1 on what k20fg's post. And can you snap a pic of the feed line going into the fuel rail for me? That's the part I need

Fuel rail feed
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Si Speed 317
07-25-2012, 01:53 PM
Oh, you have the feed routed reverse! How safe is that? Because IIRC the OEM feed starts on the drivers side. Wouldn't that mess tuning up with a reverse flow?

VTECFRED
07-25-2012, 02:29 PM
Oh, you have the feed routed reverse! How safe is that? Because IIRC the OEM feed starts on the drivers side. Wouldn't that mess tuning up with a reverse flow?


I have never heard it matters. Fuel flows through the whole rail at the same pressure so im not sure where that theory comes from?

Can you link me to an article? I am going to see if I can find anything about it.
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PetefromtheStreets
07-25-2012, 11:40 PM
No that wouldn't matter at all. Tuning is based off fuel pressure and it doesn't really matter in which direction it gets there. As long a the fpr is after the rail from the feed side your good to go.

ksboi
07-27-2012, 12:01 AM
Great build! I was wondering if those cams will help out or not? I have been told and read that oem cams are the best but never seen any turbo cams tested.

Si Speed 317
07-27-2012, 11:35 AM
IIRC, this is the low down: OEM cams are best in terms of the yielded benefits, because most turbo cams are very aggressive and the nominal power difference on a DD isn't worth the work.

VTECFRED
07-27-2012, 11:43 AM
Mine are NA Stage 2 cams. They work great for my DD

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Si Speed 317
07-27-2012, 03:01 PM
NA cams on a boosted build? Why?

VTECFRED
07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
NA cams on a boosted build? Why?

It was suggested by Brian Crower when I was planning my order for the turbo cams. He stated that the NA cams were making big numbers on turbo set ups by other customers.

I am not convinced as of yet since im running 20psi and only making 443hp. But im also not done with tuning. I am going to dyno tune next week.

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VTECFRED
07-27-2012, 03:26 PM
Finally got my Dyno Chart! The difference in power is me adding more timing on the dyno between pulls. I got it up to 17 degrees with no knocks :giggle:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/Dyngraphall3.jpg

VTECFRED
07-28-2012, 10:31 PM
I dynoed again today and made 455HP but my clutch slipped. It stunk like a burn out at the race track :)

I will post pictures and video later. I will replace the clutch next weekend.

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k20fg
07-29-2012, 10:28 AM
Congrats on the new pull !!!

What clutch did you burn up and which one are you going with?
I'm torn between the CC Super Single or the Twin Disk .. but that damn Twin Disk is soo expensive!

VTECFRED
07-29-2012, 10:38 AM
Competition stage 4 clutch. With competition fly wheel

I might try clutch masters. I can't afford the twin disc right now lol

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Si Speed 317
07-29-2012, 11:46 PM
Nice pull!! I'm on the CC stage 4 right now with an OEM flywheel. You should look into the super single or the Clutch Masters FX400, both are very popular for single high power discs.

VTECFRED
07-30-2012, 01:07 AM
Well I will be having a proper burial for my transmission. I knew it was only a matter of time lol

4th gear sounds like tin cans and marbles. It took a beating at the track and several dyno pulls if I had to count I would say 13 pulls above 400HP and around 50+ launches at the track and countless street pulls while tuning it.

I will replace the transmission with one from an 09 si with 9k miles on it this weekend and replace my clutch

Stay tuned

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VTECFRED
07-30-2012, 07:25 PM
:giggle:
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/DynoSheet2.jpg

Si Speed 317
07-30-2012, 10:39 PM
Well I will be having a proper burial for my transmission. I knew it was only a matter of time lol

4th gear sounds like tin cans and marbles. It took a beating at the track and several dyno pulls if I had to count I would say 13 pulls above 400HP and around 50+ launches at the track and countless street pulls while tuning it.

I will replace the transmission with one from an 09 si with 9k miles on it this weekend and replace my clutch

Stay tuned

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:deadhorse::FUU::sadwavey::ohnoes::nervous::sigh:: flush:
Now that I have my pissed/sad/upset/mad smilies out in the open, I can post properly. How much did the new tranny run you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm getting worried about mine (as I always am) and I'll be looking into getting one in the future.

VTECFRED
07-30-2012, 10:47 PM
I found one on craigslist for $1000 from an 09 si with 9k miles on it

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Si Speed 317
07-30-2012, 10:52 PM
WHAT?! I need a deal like that! Anything wrong with it? Why did they sell it so cheap?

Si Speed 317
07-30-2012, 10:54 PM
Omg. http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/3146495893.html

VTECFRED
07-30-2012, 11:06 PM
He said they totaled the car and are parting it out. He said it was a rear end collision. I am going thursday to get it

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Si Speed 317
07-31-2012, 10:43 AM
Damn, I need to keep my eyes open. Good luck with it, keep us posted

VTECFRED
08-03-2012, 02:07 PM
Got the new transmission. 9k miles on it

Ordered a Spec Stage 5 clutch that is supposed to hold 560FTLBS
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/newtransmission.jpg

Si Speed 317
08-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Looks clean! Are you going to open her up and check out the gears?

VTECFRED
08-03-2012, 02:49 PM
Looks clean! Are you going to open her up and check out the gears?

No im going to assume they are good and make it last until october. In october I will have enough money to get my broken one built.

Anyone know anybody running one of the KMOD built transmissions?

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Si Speed 317
08-04-2012, 08:55 PM
^ Balsy. and nope, KMOD?

VTECFRED
08-04-2012, 09:08 PM
Got my clutch this morning.

I paid $68 for overnight shipping with saturday delivery. I don't think that is too bad

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/IMG_20120804_115107.jpg
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Si Speed 317
08-05-2012, 11:36 AM
Nice, what clutch is that?

VTECFRED
08-05-2012, 12:16 PM
Spec stage 5

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Si Speed 317
08-05-2012, 05:48 PM
I've never heard of that, reviews?

VTECFRED
08-06-2012, 12:52 AM
Here is my review it sucks lol it didn't fully disengage and it slips under normal driving

Any reason why?

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VTECFRED
08-06-2012, 12:56 AM
Why would a new clutch slip and not fully disengage?

jso9zLv5Ck4

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PetefromtheStreets
08-06-2012, 09:46 AM
Was the disc handled with bare hands? Meaning no gloves, Or grease covered gloves. Was the flywheel wiped clean of all the oils on the mating surfaces?

Either that or it could use adjusting.

Si Speed 317
08-06-2012, 10:51 AM
Maybe you need to bleed the master and slave cylinders. There's an entire thread on it on 8th

VTECFRED
08-06-2012, 11:17 AM
Was the disc handled with bare hands? Meaning no gloves, Or grease covered gloves. Was the flywheel wiped clean of all the oils on the mating surfaces?

Either that or it could use adjusting.

The friction disc was not touched with bare hands and the flywheel was resurfaced even though it only has 10k miles on it

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PetefromtheStreets
08-06-2012, 01:00 PM
Could be a defective pressure plate. Not applying enough pressure.

VTECFRED
08-08-2012, 04:35 PM
I made some adjustments to my Cmc and it is holding better but 13psi it slips again.
Im going to do the 500 mile break in and see how that does. I should have that done by the weekend.

***side note***
This clutch feels like the stock clutch. I expected more pressure on the clutch pedal but it is about what the stock one feels like. Also it engages very smoothly!!

My competition stage 4 clutch gave my leg a workout in traffic and even though it was sprung it grabbed hard from day one.

Just sayin

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PetefromtheStreets
08-08-2012, 05:05 PM
I would have done the break in to begin with just to get everything straight. It could be some disk material needs to wear away to bite better against the flywheel. Or does your rear main Seal leak at all?

VTECFRED
08-08-2012, 05:19 PM
Rear main seal is not leaking. I was doing the break in but in 6th gear under very light acceleration the clutch slipped and that raised some concern for me.

This is my 3rd new clutch and I have never had one slip so easily

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PetefromtheStreets
08-09-2012, 01:13 AM
Rear main seal is not leaking. I was doing the break in but in 6th gear under very light acceleration the clutch slipped and that raised some concern for me.

This is my 3rd new clutch and I have never had one slip so easily

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Oh Gotcha. I haven't heard too great of things about spec clutches. I have a comp clutch twin disc and in all reality it isn't that bad once it's adjusted properly. I'd say it feels like a comp stage 4 pressure wise. But engagement is pretty instant. But it's street-able.

VTECFRED
08-10-2012, 10:27 AM
So here is an update. I adjusted my Cmc. After that I got a lot more pedal range and the feels better.

My clutch seems to be grabbing more but still feels weak compared to competition clutches I have owned in the past.

I am now at 300 miles of my 500 mile break in. The real change I have noticed is right before full engagement the clutch is beginning to chatter.

I think this is a good thing ?

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PetefromtheStreets
08-10-2012, 11:20 AM
Chatter isn't exactly a good thing but it means the clutch is biting. Do you have a light weight flywheel?

VTECFRED
08-10-2012, 12:00 PM
Chatter isn't exactly a good thing but it means the clutch is biting. Do you have a light weight flywheel?

I have a competition clutch 11lb flywheel

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Si Speed 317
08-10-2012, 12:09 PM
Mine chatters, but it works. Meh :shrug:

VTECFRED
08-14-2012, 02:46 PM
Just got off the phone with Jeremy from Spec clutches. I told him two weeks ago when I ordered this clutch their website stated the rated capacity was 520ftlbs and today it says 440ftlbs.

He said let me check with the guys that make those changes. He came back 3 minutes later and said "no, there is no log of the change."

After a 25 minute phone call going back and forth about exceeding the rated capacity I have an RMA but no real comfort in how they are going to handle this situation.

My argument is the clutch slipped on my drive home. That was in 6th gear 15% throttle acceleration not even out of vacuum. Normal driving.

His argument is I am exceeding the rated tq capacity. 390ftlbs to the wheels is way more than 440ftlbs at the flywheel.

I agree, but their website two weeks ago said its holding capacity was 520ftlbs now they are saying 440ftlbs.

I told him I'm not going to be out $600 so we will see what happens when I get the clutch off and send it back to them.

I see me posting my experience in a couple of places like their facebook page, forums and what ever other form of media exposure I can get seen on.

Im sure they make good clutches but I got a bad one and they need to make it right. Plus I would not have ordered this clutch at 440ftlbs I only chose this clutch because it said 520ftlbs

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PetefromtheStreets
08-14-2012, 03:23 PM
Damn man. Sorry to hear that. I hope it gets fixed right for you. 6th gear at 15% throttle is nowhere near 440ft/lbs trq. They are on crack.

Si Speed 317
08-16-2012, 11:46 AM
:yeahthat: Keep us updated

VTECFRED
08-16-2012, 04:10 PM
Ordered a competition stage 5clutch to last me until October when I can afford the twin disc and I should have my built transmission about the same time

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fre$h si
08-17-2012, 09:08 AM
what are you gonna go with for the tranny? sheesh i was hurting when i saw my account drop when I paid 1800 for a efr, id deffinatly need a few cold ones before im ready to see it drop from an albins or ppg purchase :beer:

VTECFRED
08-19-2012, 01:11 PM
I'm going with ppg first through fourth. I will install synchrotech synchros

Unless someone has a better option

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Si Speed 317
08-19-2012, 01:27 PM
Speak to Vit, IIRC he used synchrotech carbon synchros and shredded em. So he went back to OEM.

VTECFRED
08-21-2012, 08:06 AM
Got my flywheel resurfaced they had to take 28thousands off! Thanks for ruining my flywheel Spec clutches

Got My competition stage 5 clutch in and it feels like a real clutch! My clutch pedal actually feels like there is something there again. Huge difference in my drive home this time. No slipping at all.

I bet Spec sent me a stage 1 clutch
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PetefromtheStreets
08-21-2012, 12:22 PM
Got my flywheel resurfaced they had to take 28thousands off! Thanks for ruining my flywheel Spec clutches

Got My competition stage 5 clutch in and it feels like a real clutch! My clutch pedal actually feels like there is something there again. Huge difference in my drive home this time. No slipping at all.

I bet Spec sent me a stage 1 clutch
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Did you have your flywheel resurfaced when you put the spec in?

VTECFRED
08-21-2012, 12:54 PM
Yes, they took off 2thousands the first time. Not as many hot spots that time.

The guy at the machine shop said what did you do to this flywheel lol he said it looks like it has 150000 miles on it.

He didn't even want to turn it because it looked so bad.

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PetefromtheStreets
08-21-2012, 03:38 PM
Yes, they took off 2thousands the first time. Not as many hot spots that time.

The guy at the machine shop said what did you do to this flywheel lol he said it looks like it has 150000 miles on it.

He didn't even want to turn it because it looked so bad.

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Damn man. That's crazy. I'd be giving those findings to spec for sure.

And to put thing in prospective for people on the term thousandths. Your typical piece of paper is .003" so 3 thousandths. So take ~8 pieces of paper and that's how much was taken off the flywheel. That's ridiculous the clutch did that much damage.

aLmk
08-22-2012, 07:39 AM
Wow any word from spec yet?

VTECFRED
08-22-2012, 08:18 AM
Wow any word from spec yet?

No I have an RMA and will send it back for inspection. I will send it today

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Si Speed 317
08-24-2012, 11:44 AM
This is such a cruddy situation. Make sure to post this in the Business Review's section, definitely important.

VTECFRED
08-24-2012, 12:28 PM
This is such a cruddy situation. Make sure to post this in the Business Review's section, definitely important.

I definitely will post my experience in the business review. I understand that occasionally a bad part is going to slip though (no pun intended) ha! Get it ? Slip

Anyways, but good companies will make it right. We will see how spec handles this.

I'm 260 miles into my break in period of the recommended 300mile break in on ye competition clutch. It is still a beast hasn't slipped not once. I haven't been over 4500rpm yet but if you will recall the spec clutch slipped at 4krpm. Not this one :D

I'm going to do a 400mile break in instead of the 300 just because I can lol

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VTECFRED
08-27-2012, 06:01 PM
Spec clutches refunded my money. Bad or wrong pressure plate is all I was told.

Doesn't matter to me! I'm just glad I got my money back lol

The competition twin disc clutch I ordered from corsportusa.com has to be shipped from competition clutch and will take 2 weeks :mad:

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PetefromtheStreets
08-27-2012, 09:20 PM
Spec clutches refunded my money. Bad or wrong pressure plate is all I was told.

Doesn't matter to me! I'm just glad I got my money back lol

The competition twin disc clutch I ordered from corsportusa.com has to be shipped from competition clutch and will take 2 weeks :mad:

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Movin through clutches like a bauss

Si Speed 317
08-28-2012, 12:35 PM
I definitely will post my experience in the business review. I understand that occasionally a bad part is going to slip though (no pun intended) ha! Get it ? Slip

Anyways, but good companies will make it right. We will see how spec handles this.

I'm 260 miles into my break in period of the recommended 300mile break in on ye competition clutch. It is still a beast hasn't slipped not once. I haven't been over 4500rpm yet but if you will recall the spec clutch slipped at 4krpm. Not this one :D

I'm going to do a 400mile break in instead of the 300 just because I can lol

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:rotfl: Definitely post a business review, the more the merrier. As for the break-in, I suggest doing the extra 100 miles if you can, because why not?







Spec clutches refunded my money. Bad or wrong pressure plate is all I was told.

Doesn't matter to me! I'm just glad I got my money back lol

The competition twin disc clutch I ordered from corsportusa.com has to be shipped from competition clutch and will take 2 weeks :mad:

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Glad to hear that Spec did the right thing, but didn't really give u a legit reason. They seem pissed about the situation. And your CC stage 4 clutch will hold for a while so don't worry ;)

VTECFRED
08-28-2012, 07:39 PM
Here is an inside view of the cc stage 5 slipping. It is trying very hard to hold lol

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Si Speed 317
09-01-2012, 07:19 PM
Damn. Twin disc fo sho

VTECFRED
09-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Damn. Twin disc fo sho

Ordered the competition twin disc but it is on back order so it will ship from competition in 2 weeks ....well now it will be 1week now :)

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Si Speed 317
09-01-2012, 11:35 PM
Ordered the competition twin disc but it is on back order so it will ship from competition in 2 weeks ....well now it will be 1week now :)

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That's good! Its gotta be slipping because of the flywheel

aLmk
09-02-2012, 09:32 AM
Its tough to tell, but to me that looks like it might just be wheel spin? Although it is definitely easier to tell in person.

VTECFRED
09-02-2012, 12:42 PM
Its tough to tell, but to me that looks like it might just be wheel spin? Although it is definitely easier to tell in person.

I am actually starting to think the same thing because I broke traction in 5th I heard my tires squeal then it rev'd out just like 3rd and 4th.

How can I verify?

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Si Speed 317
09-02-2012, 01:19 PM
Do a 4th gear pull starting at 5500/6k and video tape it. We'll see if it spins that way. Typically once it starts spinning it'll shoot all the way till redline, but what may be happening is that you're heating up the tires while you spin. That will make the tire stick better, and may start to hook at the higher rpm. Does seem like it's spinning + clutch slippage though. You know what, I have an idea. But, before I say it, what tires are you running up front? Size, type, brand

Si Speed 317
09-02-2012, 01:22 PM
Actually, nevermind. It's definitely the flywheel being poorly resurfaced. When I break loose in any gear, it shoots up to redline awfully fast. Has to be clutch slippage. Str8JDM is running the CC stage 5 (super single) and he's fully built motor and tranny putting out over 700whp on race gas. And it holds.

VTECFRED
09-02-2012, 01:53 PM
225/45/18 Falken ziex 912

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Spoolin_VTEC
09-02-2012, 02:07 PM
Damn 18's. Try doing a bit of a burnout, then do a 4th gear pull from ~5k or ~6k. Video tape the whole thing. Be safe!! Post up ASAP

aLmk
09-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Just because his rpms don't shoot to redline doesn't mean he isn't spinning. I had an instance during tuning on race gas where I thought my clutch started to slip near the top of third gear. I happened to be datalogging at the time and Vit looked at it and thought it was tire spin. I tend to agree with him because when a clutch slips it tends to keep slipping, whereas I did a run later in the day when it was hotter outside and I didn't spin/slip clutch at all. My logic being that the temperature and ability for the tires to grip would not matter if the clutch was slipping, it would just slip. It could be his tires trying really hard to keep traction as best they can and slipping for just a bit.

VTECFRED
09-02-2012, 11:43 PM
Damn 18's. Try doing a bit of a burnout, then do a 4th gear pull from ~5k or ~6k. Video tape the whole thing. Be safe!! Post up ASAP

I will after the roads dry up. It has been raining most of the day.

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Spoolin_VTEC
09-04-2012, 10:35 PM
Sounds good, been raining here too. Damn rain.

Spoolin_VTEC
09-04-2012, 10:36 PM
P.S. - Start rev matching

VTECFRED
09-05-2012, 06:34 PM
ok I get lazy :p my friends called me out on short shifting lol

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VTECFRED
09-21-2012, 04:25 PM
I posted this in the street racing thread

Two Dodge Caliber SRT4 tried to run me. We lined up three wide you will see them line up next to me and that is the last time you see them in that race :) You cant see it but I pulled a parking lot on them LOL

Also I let them jump and still pulled on them before you see their tail lights. :umad:

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VTECFRED
09-21-2012, 04:27 PM
vs. WRX STi with exhaust and tune

mfBfFYkJXJU

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Spaz
09-21-2012, 04:47 PM
You make me miss my car so damn much

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VTECFRED
09-21-2012, 10:33 PM
Are you in TN?

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monjarassi
09-22-2012, 03:28 PM
sick love it

Si Speed 317
09-23-2012, 02:04 PM
:rotfl: I love the videos you make. You should make a BoostedK20 promo video! Great job whooping ass man. :thumb: to you. Repped!!

Edit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to VTECFRED again.

PetefromtheStreets
09-23-2012, 02:27 PM
I love hearing the tires squeal at 100 Mph. Lol. Awesome videos dude. Car sounds dope

VTECFRED
09-23-2012, 03:51 PM
:rotfl: I love the videos you make. You should make a BoostedK20 promo video! Great job whooping ass man. :thumb: to you. Repped!!

Edit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to VTECFRED again.

PM me the details of what you mean by boostedk20 promo video

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VTECFRED
09-25-2012, 11:58 PM
Cylinder 1
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/Cylinder1.jpg

Cylinder 2
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/Cylinder2.jpg

Cylinder 3
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/Cylinder3.jpg

Cylinder 4
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/Cylinder4.jpg

Compression Test 181psi across all cylinders
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/compressiontest.jpg

Looking for trouble
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/trouble.jpg

Car Show
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/carline.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/plate.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/3stooges.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/wheel.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/vsFRs.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc516/PortMaster1/PortMastersBuild/IMG_0242-1.jpg

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PetefromtheStreets
09-26-2012, 09:19 AM
Motors thriving just fine man. Good shit! Especially after all that rev limiter action in your videos. Haha

VTECFRED
09-26-2012, 10:56 AM
Ha! I know I guess it's a good thing I kept the stock rev limits even though my valvetrain is built for more :)

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Si Speed 317
09-27-2012, 10:24 AM
Pics look good, your motor looks happy!

VTECFRED
10-02-2012, 01:48 PM
Switched to E85 installed EM1 CMC and installed the competition twin disc :)

The twin disc feels amazing! Engages smoothly!

Pedal is firm! Not recommended for a daily driver in traffic lol

It is noisy though. It sqeaks on engagement and slight rattle when the clutch pedal is down.

I will hit the dyno Saturday! :D

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PetefromtheStreets
10-02-2012, 07:21 PM
Let us know how it goes man. I'm definitely interested.

VTECFRED
10-03-2012, 04:52 PM
Dyno scheduled for Saturday at Carma Performance at 1pm

I'm going to do a "base" pull to test my street tune first :) then do a full tune.

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PetefromtheStreets
10-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Your tuning it yourself right?

VTECFRED
10-03-2012, 10:24 PM
Yes

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PetefromtheStreets
10-03-2012, 10:29 PM
Awesome man. I'm going to be tuning my own as well.

VTECFRED
10-03-2012, 10:53 PM
I was told that E85 doesn't detonate so you have to rely on more than knocks to tune it safely.

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PetefromtheStreets
10-03-2012, 11:28 PM
Yea. E85's af is different then regular pump gas I believe. But it will test your skills I suppose.

VTECFRED
10-03-2012, 11:59 PM
I have done a street tune on my car for 93octane and now E85.

But I'm going to dyno tune on E85 :)

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PetefromtheStreets
10-04-2012, 12:28 AM
I'm definitely curious of the gains it will see.

aLmk
10-04-2012, 09:22 AM
Good luck with the tuning!

VTECFRED
10-06-2012, 04:34 PM
I made 486HP on 15psi. I have a boost leak so I can't hit 20psi.

Better luck next time.

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VTECFRED
10-06-2012, 04:40 PM
And I smoked the turbo trying to make it hold 20psi before I accepted it was a boost leak

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aLmk
10-06-2012, 05:19 PM
Does that mean you'll need a new turbo? Or just rebuild?

VTECFRED
10-06-2012, 05:45 PM
I will just rebuild it. I have done it twice already lol

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VTECFRED
10-06-2012, 06:32 PM
My first pull on the dyno made 475HP and the tires smoked and rubber went flying lol

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PetefromtheStreets
10-06-2012, 09:41 PM
Damn man that's crazy.

VTECFRED
10-06-2012, 09:56 PM
Well ended my night with breaking 4th gear it is completely gone.

Time for a built transmission

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PetefromtheStreets
10-07-2012, 02:59 AM
Damn. That sucks ass man. Built tranny is definitely for you.

fre$h si
10-07-2012, 07:00 AM
Fred, were u power shifting when u broke it?

VTECFRED
10-07-2012, 09:37 AM
No I was in 4th hovering around 4krpm then started to ease into it until about 5500rpm then I mashed it and then it broke.

When it broke it went to redline I thought it was just time to shift so I went to 5th and it didn't sound right or feel right. I looked at my speed and it said 0mph

4th is gone

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VTECFRED
10-10-2012, 12:30 AM
I looked through my datalogs and this was the first dyno pull and it hit 22psi and held but all the pulls after this dyno pull were at 15psi so I didnt have a boost leak until after this dyno pull. This was my lowest reading of the day too at 475HP. My later pulls I ended up with 486HP@15psi
"Rubber went flying" LOL

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monjarassi
10-10-2012, 01:49 AM
So I'm curious.

Ur on the pl manifold, have u experienced any boost creep issues?

I know 2 guys here locally that are on crsx n have the same manifold and are having tuning issues that the manifold seems to create boost creep that's uncontrollable. Care to share info.

PetefromtheStreets
10-10-2012, 04:54 PM
I read that your tires spun on the dyno. Here at our local dyno a friend dyno'd his v6 turbo hatch on 15" street tires. The car made 700/500 whp/trq. Having the car strapped down well made all the difference. But nonetheless 486 on 15lbs is dope. So I could only imaging upper 500's to 600's coming from 22psi.

VTECFRED
10-10-2012, 05:14 PM
So I'm curious.

Ur on the pl manifold, have u experienced any boost creep issues?

I know 2 guys here locally that are on crsx n have the same manifold and are having tuning issues that the manifold seems to create boost creep that's uncontrollable. Care to share info.

I'm on a 44mm WG on a 8lb spring and without boost control it "creeps" to 10psi max. I have no problems with boost creep. Other than that I have a 1/4" line going from my distribution block to the bottom of the wastegate and a 3/16" line to the top from the boost controller. I don't know if that is even significant enough to make a difference.

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VTECFRED
10-10-2012, 05:17 PM
I read that your tires spun on the dyno. Here at our local dyno a friend dyno'd his v6 turbo hatch on 15" street tires. The car made 700/500 whp/trq. Having the car strapped down well made all the difference. But nonetheless 486 on 15lbs is dope. So I could only imaging upper 500's to 600's coming from 22psi.

The dude said he would have to turn the dyno around if I wanted to do another 22psi pull lol but after that first pull I ended up with a boost leak some where.

But since I broke 4th gear again right after I left the dyno I haven't worried about it :banghead:

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aLmk
10-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Why would he have to turn the dyno around?

PetefromtheStreets
10-10-2012, 08:29 PM
The dude said he would have to turn the dyno around if I wanted to do another 22psi pull lol but after that first pull I ended up with a boost leak some where.

But since I broke 4th gear again right after I left the dyno I haven't worried about it :banghead:

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What's up with turning the dyno around? But man that must feel sick 22lbs shredding the tires on the dyno.

VTECFRED
10-10-2012, 10:21 PM
I think because the rollers with the texture were on the rwd side and it gets better traction when fwd is rotating into that roller vs when it rotates into the smooth roller ?? Just my observation/guess

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PetefromtheStreets
10-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Seems legit.

VTECFRED
10-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Happened last time I got on the dyno with a different vendor. They did all the rwd first then moved the ramps to the other side of the dyno for fwd.

My son said the dyno read 572HP but then the guy clicked something and changed it to 475HP so I'm going to call and ask if that's true.

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Si Speed 317
10-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Hold on. You broke 4th again?! And why do you have such bad compressor surge/flutter in that video afer the pull?

Also, meg, are you implying that Rosie O'Donnell can't drive? :rotfl:

PetefromtheStreets
10-13-2012, 01:26 AM
Happened last time I got on the dyno with a different vendor. They did all the rwd first then moved the ramps to the other side of the dyno for fwd.

My son said the dyno read 572HP but then the guy clicked something and changed it to 475HP so I'm going to call and ask if that's true.

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Damn that sounds like the number It should hit being as your at 470's on 15lbs.

VTECFRED
11-26-2012, 09:44 PM
Hold on. You broke 4th again?! And why do you have such bad compressor surge/flutter in that video afer the pull?

Also, meg, are you implying that Rosie O'Donnell can't drive? :rotfl:

I didn't see this question. I have a hks ssq 3 blow off valve that's how it sounds I was told. There may be a small amount of compressor surge at low boost or right after blow off.

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VTECFRED
11-26-2012, 09:51 PM
My hybrid racing timing chain tensioner broke. I do not believe it jumped time. I have recovered all the pieces from my oil pan and oil pick up.

Hybrid sent me a new and improved version of their k series tensioner.

The problem is I have to pull the motor because it looks like the top bolt to the timing chain guide on the left came loose and has been moving around and ruined the threads.

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Spoolin_VTEC
12-02-2012, 01:27 AM
Wow, how does that happen? Glad to see they sent you a new one. What's so special about the new one vs their old one?

aLmk
12-02-2012, 10:45 AM
It has a silver knob :giggle:

VTECFRED
12-02-2012, 11:06 AM
Wow, how does that happen? Glad to see they sent you a new one. What's so special about the new one vs their old one?

I asked hybrid to explain.

" The silver plug is pressed in and is retained with a spiral retaining ring. What makes this unit much different from the last one is that the retaining ring is held in a double blind groove. The last unit used a typical groove in the bore. That lead to high frequency pulsations ejecting the ring and eventually the plug too. We had issues finding the exact cause that lead to the pulsations as the ring manufacturer didnt have much helpful data. we were, however, able to remedy the issue. The double blind groove prevents such ejection issues."

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Si Speed 317
12-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Solid. Good to know. Hows progress?

VTECFRED
12-05-2012, 02:28 PM
Solid. Good to know. Hows progress?

I'm going to try and pull the timing cover with the motor still in the car. If I'm successful then I can start driving it again and then focus on breaking down the new Transmission I bought so I can send the gears off for treatment. :D

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snizzletoff
12-05-2012, 03:28 PM
I wish you the best of luck with getting that cover off while its in the car, but i just don't think it will be possible, keep us updated though! Also hit me up if you ever have a trans question, its daunting at first but super simple after you dive in!!

VTECFRED
12-05-2012, 03:57 PM
I wish you the best of luck with getting that cover off while its in the car, but i just don't think it will be possible, keep us updated though! Also hit me up if you ever have a trans question, its daunting at first but super simple after you dive in!!

I have said my prayers bro lol and yes I am procrastinating on the Transmission :o
It looks complicated and I know it will be a month between disassembly and assembly so lots of time to forget stuff.

Keep your PM box clear my friend because I will have questions hehe :p :beer:
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PetefromtheStreets
12-05-2012, 04:14 PM
What I do is take pictures of an assembly just incase I forget. And I usually don't forget because I'm a hands on visual type so doing it once I'm good from there.

Si Speed 317
12-07-2012, 10:16 AM
Make sure to document it and post it up!! Help us other non-limiterbouncingfrenzy members out :D

Good luck!

VTECFRED
01-11-2013, 11:37 AM
***UPDATE***

I am pulling my new transmission apart this weekend and sending the gears off next week to 300below to be treated.

Next week I'm putting my car on the trailer and taking it to my friends garage to try and fix the timing chain guide without pulling the motor. If that is successful I will be driving her again (with 4th gear broken) :-)

Then I will just be waiting on the gears to cone back and reassemble the new transmission and drive it to my boss's house to install the new transmission.

It should be done by the end if next February. ;)

***Race season upgrades***
15" Rota slipstreams with 24.5 slicks

My goal is to beat my time this year of 12.9s@120mph on street tires.

Pictures will be forthcoming :beer:

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PetefromtheStreets
01-11-2013, 11:45 AM
***UPDATE***

I am pulling my new transmission apart this weekend and sending the gears off next week to 300below to be treated.

Next week I'm putting my car on the trailer and taking it to my friends garage to try and fix the timing chain guide without pulling the motor. If that is successful I will be driving her again (with 4th gear broken) :-)

Then I will just be waiting on the gears to cone back and reassemble the new transmission and drive it to my boss's house to install the new transmission.

It should be done by the end if next February. ;)

***Race season upgrades***
15" Rota slipstreams with 24.5 slicks

My goal is to beat my time this year of 12.9s@120mph on street tires.

Pictures will be forthcoming :beer:

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Nice update man. Can't wait to see it reeking havoc on the limiter again!

Si Speed 317
01-21-2013, 01:43 AM
Sick update VTECFRED! Cant wait for more goodness and pics

boosted_teg
01-21-2013, 02:32 AM
you should be able to replace the guides. its just going to take A LOT of patience with tools in some cramped areas. :) I hate removing that side cover, especially when i had hex bolts in it instead of 10mm

VTECFRED
06-16-2013, 09:52 PM
I found this video helpful and thought I would share.

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aLmk
06-17-2013, 11:07 AM
What compression are your pistons?

VTECFRED
06-17-2013, 11:19 AM
What compression are your pistons?

10.5

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aLmk
06-17-2013, 11:45 AM
10.5

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Ok, they are CP pistons. I saw your part number in the OP, but when I search for these and look at them on their site, under the C/R with .040'' it says FT. Do you know what that means? For some of the pistons it gives a normal comp ratio. I'm just a bit confused. I want to purchase some pistons and rods here soon, a long with a short block to build in case mine goes. I would like to be in the 10.5:1 region as I do not really like the idea of going super low compression because I'm not building an all out race car. Given your experience would you suggest CP and do you like your comp ratio? Do you think CP pistons are better than JE, wiseco, etc? Also what do you think about rods?

Thanks!

VTECFRED
06-17-2013, 01:04 PM
FT means flat top which is what you want for boost. They are close to 10:1 but I went with a thin head gasket so the CP tech dude said I would be around 10.5:1 :D
Just make sure they are forged. Weisco vs JE vs CP I couldn't say one was better than the other. All three are used in high horsepower applications and all have proven performance. The coatings you can get with them is another story. I didn't get the ones with a coating.

As for rods. Depends on your power goals. I like rods that are shotpeened and forged. I went with blueprint racing H beam rods. They have proven to be worthy. My last dyno was 570+hp and I was spinning on the dyno.

I hope that helps

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aLmk
06-17-2013, 01:42 PM
FT means flat top which is what you want for boost. They are close to 10:1 but I went with a thin head gasket so the CP tech dude said I would be around 10.5:1 :D
Just make sure they are forged. Weisco vs JE vs CP I couldn't say one was better than the other. All three are used in high horsepower applications and all have proven performance. The coatings you can get with them is another story. I didn't get the ones with a coating.

It seems most quality rods, even h beams, are shotpeened and forged.
As for rods. Depends on your power goals. I like rods that are shotpeened and forged. I went with blueprint racing H beam rods. They have proven to be worthy. My last dyno was 570+hp and I was spinning on the dyno.

I hope that helps

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Ya thanks for the input. I wonder why they put FT but don't also put the comp ratio :think: Why is flat top better for boost?

VTECFRED
06-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Well Flat top in general are lower compression. I don't know why CP just didn't list their compression ratio instead of listing it as FT :giggle:

When I was doing my build I had to call and ask them what the compression ratio was on those pistons.