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EP3toMS3
01-26-2014, 06:32 PM
I had an EP3

http://i.imgur.com/ggpzFcgl.jpg

But I wanted boost, and the Mazdaspeed3 was calling my name.
They're notorious for being very complicit to minor bolt-ons and a decent tune, and mine certainly hasn't disappointed. I poked my nose in here to see how you all were putting the power down with wrong wheel drive (thanks for the tire tips!) and figure I should share a picture or two of my happy hatch.

For those that don't know much about the stock 2.3L turbo wagon, it comes with a direct injected 263/280 crank rating, and mine put down a dyno of 247/265 on the local rollers. I've since added an intake, test pipe (secondary cat delete), fuel pump internals, and a 25% E85 tune for some juicy spark advance.

http://i.imgur.com/EIUlyvs.png

We use CF1.01, but the Dynojet numbers for the car are 338/406. I'd call that a tad optimistic at CF1.09.

And here's a picture of the car

http://i.imgur.com/XfbcBOKl.jpg

I'm waffling over a turbo swap, but I'll probably wait one more year before I bump it up about 70HP. That's about all you can safely achieve on stock block ~400/400.

I'll continue to snoop around - there's always good information boosted FWD owners can share! :vtec:

Spaz
01-26-2014, 07:06 PM
They are pretty nice. Guy in my club has one. He's tried multiple times running me lol

BoostedK20
01-28-2014, 11:51 AM
I had an EP3

http://i.imgur.com/ggpzFcgl.jpg

But I wanted boost, and the Mazdaspeed3 was calling my name.
They're notorious for being very complicit to minor bolt-ons and a decent tune, and mine certainly hasn't disappointed. I poked my nose in here to see how you all were putting the power down with wrong wheel drive (thanks for the tire tips!) and figure I should share a picture or two of my happy hatch.

For those that don't know much about the stock 2.3L turbo wagon, it comes with a direct injected 263/280 crank rating, and mine put down a dyno of 247/265 on the local rollers. I've since added an intake, test pipe (secondary cat delete), fuel pump internals, and a 25% E85 tune for some juicy spark advance.

http://i.imgur.com/EIUlyvs.png

We use CF1.01, but the Dynojet numbers for the car are 338/406. I'd call that a tad optimistic at CF1.09.

And here's a picture of the car

http://i.imgur.com/XfbcBOKl.jpg

I'm waffling over a turbo swap, but I'll probably wait one more year before I bump it up about 70HP. That's about all you can safely achieve on stock block ~400/400.

I'll continue to snoop around - there's always good information boosted FWD owners can share! :vtec:

Welcome and thanks for sharing! I've always enjoyed the feel of an MS3. I almost bought a 1st gen! Then I was interested in a MSMX3. Looking forward to more posts, and post up some more pictures! The MS3 is a great hatch, share some more complimenting shots!

EP3toMS3
01-28-2014, 12:33 PM
Spose I could toss a couple more pics in here.

This was brand new and untainted.

http://i.imgur.com/0fmlFhX.jpg

It's the tech package, including HIDs that turn with the car, auto-windshield wipers, and some other goofy toys. It's actually a very respectable interior for a $25k car.

http://i.imgur.com/C7QjMIq.jpg

The 235/40/18 Neo Gens that are currently doing an admirable job of handling the torque

http://i.imgur.com/V5jdzdi.jpg

And recently I've added the Laser Interceptor 8.9, and you can see the diodes visible just at the upper corners of the goofy grin. You should youtube them if you're not aware of what they are - if you do a lot of highway miles they can quite easily pay for themselves in many jurisdictions.

http://i.imgur.com/9xjtQ1kl.jpg

Si Speed 317
01-29-2014, 03:30 PM
Nice! Are the wheels powdercoated or painted black from the factory? And it's definitely a nice car for $25k. IIRC, VitViper used to daily an MS3! I like the laser jammers you have. Pretty penny huh?

EP3toMS3
02-04-2014, 07:43 PM
The wheels are gunmetal gray from the factory for '13's - and although I wish they were 8" instead of 7.5, I'll be keeping them for awhile for their nice appearance.

The Laser Interceptors cost about the same as a hefty speeding ticket ($550).

I'm not going to make it a year before the turbo swap.. I've already ordered a 3bar MAP, EBCS, new Bypass Valve, 3" intake and I'll be picking up the newly fabricated BNR S3 (GT2871 CHRA) in about two weeks. I'm doing a really bad job of sticking to my plan with this car...

Si Speed 317
02-05-2014, 12:42 AM
The wheels are gunmetal gray from the factory for '13's - and although I wish they were 8" instead of 7.5, I'll be keeping them for awhile for their nice appearance.

The Laser Interceptors cost about the same as a hefty speeding ticket ($550).

I'm not going to make it a year before the turbo swap.. I've already ordered a 3bar MAP, EBCS, new Bypass Valve, 3" intake and I'll be picking up the newly fabricated BNR S3 (GT2871 CHRA) in about two weeks. I'm doing a really bad job of sticking to my plan with this car...

The mod bug always finds a way of biting! Great order list so far, what EBCS did you go with? And, toss up more details on that GT2871 chra turbo. My first setup was a GT2871R, I was limited right at 400whp

EP3toMS3
02-05-2014, 01:06 AM
The mod bug always finds a way of biting! Great order list so far, what EBCS did you go with? And, toss up more details on that GT2871 chra turbo. My first setup was a GT2871R, I was limited right at 400whp

It's a Cobb EBCS that I'll be running in 3 port.

The turbo details:

GT2871 compressor wheel
New GT28 non ball bearing CHRA
360 degree thrust assembly
upgraded wastegate actuator assembly
balanced to or under .5 gram/in2
upgraded compressor housing with custom outlet for the factory intercooler piping/couplers

http://bnrsupercars.com/

They used to recycle a K04 and port the hot side, but they were prone to cracking from insufficient material and heat cycling. BNR just had their own castings made, so now it's a non-issue and the reason I'm pulling the trigger. It's a perfect match for our direct injection fueling limits and 25% E85.

One of the best Speed tuners made 417/395 with this turbo with meth injection (and later 445/412 on the GTX2867r with rods/pistons/port work), but I don't intend to push it beyond 370whp. That's a decent safe zone if you reverse taper the boost to keep the rods in the block, and the OEM clutch and trans can handle it nicely. This is still my DD.

Just recently we've had some MZR's break 700awhp (speed6) and 800whp with several similar builds taking place this winter, so expect to see some low 10s passes from the Mazda camp this year, maybe tickle the 9s.

Spaz
02-05-2014, 12:26 PM
sounds like you have a good path set for yourself

Si Speed 317
02-05-2014, 12:28 PM
It's a Cobb EBCS that I'll be running in 3 port.

The turbo details:

GT2871 compressor wheel
New GT28 non ball bearing CHRA
360 degree thrust assembly
upgraded wastegate actuator assembly
balanced to or under .5 gram/in2
upgraded compressor housing with custom outlet for the factory intercooler piping/couplers

http://bnrsupercars.com/

They used to recycle a K04 and port the hot side, but they were prone to cracking from insufficient material and heat cycling. BNR just had their own castings made, so now it's a non-issue and the reason I'm pulling the trigger. It's a perfect match for our direct injection fueling limits and 25% E85.

One of the best Speed tuners made 417/395 with this turbo with meth injection (and later 445/412 on the GTX2867r with rods/pistons/port work), but I don't intend to push it beyond 370whp. That's a decent safe zone if you reverse taper the boost to keep the rods in the block, and the OEM clutch and trans can handle it nicely. This is still my DD.

Just recently we've had some MZR's break 700awhp (speed6) and 800whp with several similar builds taking place this winter, so expect to see some low 10s passes from the Mazda camp this year, maybe tickle the 9s.

Great info! Cool option by BNR, it's a nice option for you guys. That's great that they do that. And I'm actually a bit surprised that the Mazda internals aren't somewhat beefier to handle that type of power increase. And I don't mean that negatively by any means.

Still a great daily driver! I daily mine as well. Always puts a smile on your face haha. Think you can get some of the MZR guys on here to post a build? It would be cool to expand and see other builds!

EP3toMS3
02-05-2014, 12:47 PM
Great info! Cool option by BNR, it's a nice option for you guys. That's great that they do that. And I'm actually a bit surprised that the Mazda internals aren't somewhat beefier to handle that type of power increase. And I don't mean that negatively by any means.

Still a great daily driver! I daily mine as well. Always puts a smile on your face haha. Think you can get some of the MZR guys on here to post a build? It would be cool to expand and see other builds!

Don't get me wrong, a lot of the guys have pushed the stock block to 500+whp, but it's a time bomb at that point. It's the massive torque we make at lower RPM that throws rods, and most of the guys that go with a bigger turbo (30 and 35 frames, EFRs, PT) just can't resist pushing their luck.

You'll need to sign up for an account to view this link, but this is currently the highest HP build

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f658/njspeed3-s-sp63-build-infinity-beyond-157802/

He put down 823/608 at 47psi, and there's more on tap but we need Cobb to make some changes that will allow us to rev higher. Those numbers came at 7.2K RPM, there's a bit left in the car.

EP3toMS3
04-17-2014, 11:48 PM
BNR S3 V2 goes in Saturday, wish me luck!

monjarassi
04-18-2014, 12:06 AM
gl there

Spaz
04-18-2014, 08:14 AM
gl there

x2 :thumb:

aLmk
04-18-2014, 09:55 AM
Sub'd

Si Speed 317
04-18-2014, 02:58 PM
Best of luck!!